Analysing Griezmann comments, new deal, and Cholo

Carlo Valladares addresses the pressing issues facing Atleti this summer

Griezmann signed one year contract renewal on Tuesday

Griezmann signed one year contract renewal on Tuesday

Atletico Madrid’s supposed 17/18 season kits have leaked, but we at AtléticoFans.com still want to address Antoine Griezmann’s recent comments (or backtracking) and his new deal that extended from 2021 to 2022.

Amid the news of the deal and the confirmation, the French superstar took advantage of the deal to release an apologizing statement on the club’s official website:

“The first thing that I want to do is apologize to the people who misunderstood my statements. Maybe I expressed myself badly or someone wanted to make news where there weren’t any, but since I came, I have given my all for my club, my teammates, and my coaching staff, and I’m very happy to live one more season with all of you.”

This new deal and recent comments didn’t mark the end of Manchester United’s high-profile interest; in fact, it was the Court of Arbitration’s decision to reject Atletico’s transfer ban appeal that seemingly squashed the deal’s momentum.

The deal didn’t just impact Atletico Madrid’s summer recruitment plans; it seems to have influenced Griezmann’s decision to leave the club amid their inability to find a replacement due to the ban.

Back in May, on the same day the transfer ban appeal was rejected, Griezmann took to Twitter to show his commitment toward Los Rojiblancos. Obviously, the timing of the tweet was not coincidental:

Nevertheless, here we are now. #Griezmann2022 happened. It is happening. We can credit his ability to sympathize with Atleti’s unfortunate recruitment halt and the ban itself. Given his remarks to Telefoot earlier this month, it is obvious his decision to stay was due to new circumstances and not out of his pure love and loyalty for the club, per Bleacher Report:

And that is okay.

Personally, as someone who has watched Griezmann grow into a complete player as a central striker, No.10, and as a half-space roamer, it didn’t bother me that the former Real Sociedad man wanted to try new challenges with a bigger club and a coach who is a proven winner. No disrespect to Diego Simeone, our hero, but if I was Griezmann, the prospect of Jose Mourinho on the touchline for a final seems more like a guaranteed celebration than our Argentine gaffer.

These tempting matters aside, despite the new deal, Griezmann still has evoked doubters regarding recent comments. It is still widely believed he will not stay long term and will definitely go to Manchester United next summer when Atleti is able to conduct recruitment business.

Some Atletico fans will be salty, some Atletico fans may not give him the same praise for the upcoming 17/18 season, but as I have told others and continue to tell them – Simeone staying (hopefully for longer than Griezmann) is a true reason to be happy, even more so than our French superstar. Regardless of who leaves, Simeone is the guy that is the true difference maker. Not Griezmann.

Obviously, be happy we have both for next season but never think we’re hopeless to find goals when Griezmann does leave. No, we have one of the best coaches in the world that is great at finding a way.


  • AndersAT

    Nice article. And I agree that it would not have been a disaster if he left, but it is nice he stays. I hope Costa joins in January. Those two together would be devastating.

    I don’t agree on your views on Man U and Mourinho though. I think he is heavily overrated, and if Griezmann would like to win titles Man U is definitely not the right place. He should go for Man City, Chelsea, Bayern or Juventus.

  • Guardiola is massively overrated. Mourinho mostly wins due to his tactics, not his players. Guardiola needs Ballon d’Or nominees.

    Thanks for reading, though.

  • AndersAT

    Hmm. Agree that Guardiola is overrated too, but it does not change the fact that Man U under Mourinho has been a disaster, much like Chelsea and Real Madrid before that, and there is no sign of that changing any time soon.

  • Manchester United will win a UCL with Mourinho.

    And how? Manchester United won 3 trophies. Far from disaster.

    Mourinho is Chelsea’s most successful Manager ever. No top manager today would win a UCL with the Porto teams and Inter teams that Mourinho coached.

  • AndersAT

    Hardly, but we will se about that.

    Community Shield, league cup and Europa league is hardly impressive with a club like Man U (playing awful football in the meantime), but if you think so, fair enough.

    His previous feats are of course impressive, and I do not disagree with that, I referred to his last spell with Chelsea and Real Madrid, which mounts up to a long time of not being a particular good coach with some great teams.

  • I only acknowledge winning. I don’t feed into that common fan, media bred “attractive” football nonsense.

    He got too ahead of himself with Real Madrid. He won a title in his last spell with Chelsea, too, despite his last season being a disaster. But his players dropped into unrecognizable form that 15/16 season.

  • AndersAT

    I am not talking about attractive football, I am a more result oriented guy also. I am simply talking about not playing well.

  • SL_FAN

    Jose is massively overrated. After he exposed in Spain he is not the same guys he was. Chelsea Sacked him and even with most expensive squad in the world (May be 2nd) he finished 6th in EPL and won two domestic charity trophies.

    If Greiz move to Man U its because of global icon of Manchester United not because of Jose. If Jose continues to play his hoof the ball tactics griezman will be out Man U in following season.

    Hope Griez stays at Atletico (Much better club than Man U At the moment) or move to a Club like Bayern Juve or PSG even.

  • Jamie

    Good grief, what did I just read.

  • Vagabond Messi

    I think our board has become as worse as Barca , we’ve signed 28 years old Vitolo for 40m but we don’t want to spend that much on Diego Costa? We need midfielder who can control ball and tick in play, Serri is available for 35m and we’re not buying him. Every year we’re buying millions of attackers yet we’re struggling to score goals , it’s midfield that’s at fault not attackers.

  • Max Huber

    What happened with this page? Nobody here to keep it up? It’s a pity because it was the best english fanpage!

  • Vagabond Messi

    It seems Authors have no zeal or motivation to keep this site alive.

  • Max Huber

    very sad!!

  • Atleti-lover

    What is this???? 2-0 for Girona!!
    It seems the players think that this is a friendly game.
    You are playing la liga game!!!!!!!!!!

  • Zinni DUDU

    Juanfran looks really out of his mind, the way he is defending. And all these long balls forward. What did Simeone train all pre-season long?

  • Max Huber

    Yeah – very bad play! Especially the midfield is playing shit – Koke and Gabi are doing nothing, Carrasco is sloppy, Torres as usual invisible and our defense is sleeping! Where is the hunger, and the fighting spirit?!

  • Max Huber

    It’s the same shit Cholo-play – long balls are a sign of an idealess play!

  • Zinni DUDU

    Juanfran looks really bad…

  • Max Huber

    Where is the fighting spirit?!!!!! I really can’t understand this shit play?? They do NOTHING to change this game!!

  • Kingdom

    Glory to Real Madrid!

  • Zinni DUDU

    Why a second yellow for Griezmann? Fucking spanish referees

  • Zinni DUDU

    We wasted 60 fucking Minutes with the long balls. Look what happens when they start to play football…FUCK FUCK FUCK

  • Kingdom

    Your club is a disgrace. Get relegated again!

  • Max Huber

    I really hope Cholo will learn from this game, but I’m very sceptical about that!

  • Zinni DUDU

    I am hoping that every year. Hope next week we are going to see Correa starting with Griezmann suspended and Vrasljko for Juanfran

  • Kingdom

    Just stop parking the bus. Be happy with conceding. 🙂

  • Max Huber

    But by the way – Atletico was lucky and unlucky at this game – lucky for many goals Oblak saved and the second goal by Gimenez and unlucky about horrible ref-desicions! The red card for Griezi was really hard!

  • Max Huber

    Actually there shouldn’t be any doubt about that!!

  • Zinni DUDU

    Suck my dick you little bitch. Hope Real gets fucked by Depor

  • AaX

    I’m through with this indiscriminate wait and absorb philosophy with every single team and even with lower newly promoted teams. You must choose your cautious and non cautious approach.
    This time we went as far as 20min before deciding to reignite initiation.
    We registered our first shot at goal after 34min.

    And I’m DONE with these rectal madrid referrees PERIOD

    Tonight’s was not because we were lucky or unlucky.
    Tonight’s was because we have decided to remain stupid thinking things from last season will still work starting this one.
    WE DESERVED conceding those.

    And OBLAK saved our asses more than thrice.

    I’d have Correa and Gaitan to start the Next’s.

    AUPA Forza ATLETI !!

  • Zinni DUDU

    Btw Lucas deservs to play alongside Godin. Savic and Gimenez are really bad

  • AnonX

    How was it ?
    We did look good playing 3 at the back. And that with only 10 men.

  • Vagabond Messi

    He’ll play extra CDM in Carrasco kr an extra defender .

  • Vagabond Messi

    On top of that they’ve made all fans believe that it’s just the steikers problem and Diego Costa will magically start scoring on long balls lol.

  • Vagabond Messi

    We looked good bevause we tried to play with 10men with 11 we teied to defend defend.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Lucas is better than both

  • Maura

    I agree with both of you, and would like to add in the next match I’d like the back line to be: Vrsaljko, Gimenez, Godin, and Lucas. With Thomas back from his suspension, it would be good for him to have game time. Maybe have Gabi play the first half and Thomas the second (like Barca used to do with Iniesta and Xabi). He was very impressive in preseason. I would definitely start Correa up front in the next match. If he can perform like he did last night, he will be very dangerous. But it seems like Torres, Juanfran, and Savic do less harm to the team on the bench than on the pitch.

  • Maura

    Are any of you concerned about Greizmann not scoring any goals in preseason and playing rather poorly last night before his ejection? It seems like his mind is elsewhere. I think that Vietto and Gaitan put in more effort than Griezmann. We actually played much better in a 3-4-3 after Griezmann’s ejection. Will the team appeal Griezmann’s red or let it stand?

  • AnonX

    I’m sure Grizzi will show up because he’s a Total Pro eventhough didn’t score in the Preseason’s.
    We should appeal for the red card although I’m not optimistic about it, because we would not able to field him against Valencia too should the card stands.

    On the other hand, it’s refreshingly encouraging to see Atleti were brave enough to play 3-4-3. We should consider playing this set up in selective matches to keep our opponents guessing and on their toes as compensation to this summer transfer ban.
    I don’t see any better option currently.

    Aupa ATLETI !

  • Max Huber

    Yeah, I’m thinking the same all the time! The problem are not only our strikers! THen every striker at Atletico must be shit – Jackson, Gameiro, Mandzukic and even Griezman – he didn’t score for a long period now. But are they bad players? NO! It’s our playing system which sucks! For years now! SOmetimes – mostly against strong teams – Cholo chooses another system – more offensive – and they play much better! THis team now doesn’t suite Diego Costa – maybe he’ll have the same problem than the other strikers the last periods, AND he’ll be suspended most of the time with our spanish refs!

  • Max Huber

    I thought the same – and he didn’t score for a long period. But he is our best player – he defends a lot and runs his ass off. With this playing system he has the same problems than any other striker! But he’s the one who tries to bring the ball forward and boost the game!

  • thericeking

    nice post

  • Roberto

    imagine: semifinal CL – big goal opportunity for Atletico in 85th minute to achieve the final – griezmann and saul will score – gameiro, vietto, gabi for sure not – torres, carrasco, koke maybe….

  • Roberto

    Hard oponents in CL. Costa gets more expensive, now.

  • Roberto

    Har opponents. Costa will get more expensive, now

  • AtletiNews

    SOURCE FROM : en.atleticodemadrid.com

    Temp. 17-18 | Girona – Atlético de Madrid | Gabi
    WE VISIT THE GRAN CANARIA STADIUM TO PLAY AGAINST LAS PALMAS
    Looking to secure the first victory in LaLiga
    August 26, 2017 – 7:50

    Atlético wants to win its first LaLiga match and will look for it in Las Palmas (22:15, CET) with Godín, Thomas, Filipe Luis and Gameiro as the novelties on the list.

    Second week and second away match. We visit a rival, which we have lately beat at their home, the Gran Canaria stadium, as our three visits to Las Palmas, ended in wins: in the 2015-16 season, by 0-3 and in 2016-17 by 0-5 in La Liga and last season in the Cup, by 0-2.

    Atlético de Madrid began the current season with a tie (2-2) in Girona whereas the beginning of Las Palmas was worse, after suffering a slim loss (1-0) in Mestalla against Valencia.

    We will play this match before next week’s first League break for the national teams. Simeone will recover for these squad list Godín and Thomas, both banned last week, whilst Nico Gaitán is absent, after suffering a blow to his foot in the last training. Filipe Luis and Gameiro, are on the list, after recovering from their respective injuries.

  • Roberto

    Shit, Diego,Costa,would have been decisive for atleti to win the champions league…..

  • Zinni DUDU

    Simeone is going fucking mad. Is he fucking kidding me? Vietto in the CL against strong team, leaving Gameiro out of the fucking squad and Correa, Torres and Carrasco on the bench? Savic playing again. FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCK MY ASS

  • Roberto

    I still cannot understand, why Oblak was so absent in the penalty shootout in Milan in the CL Final against Madrid. He is the best penalty killer in the world and madrid shot 3 horrible penalties….i hope there is not any betting- or fifa-mafia behind. I remember 2001 final valencia vs bayern. Valencia lost very close. They even allready led,during th penalty shootout by one goal, then bayern goaly kahn was very lucky with a lucky save towards the post, which allowed bayern to equaliz the sootout. And the match looser of VCF was a slovenian (like oblak) forward called Zachovic. He had a century opportunity to fix the 2-1 in the 92 nd minute, in front of the empty goal, and he missed rediculousely his penalty with an extremely week shot, which was the decisive one. Thus, in the End surprising and unexpected not logic slovenian incapacity stopped spain twice, from having a big spanish champion in Europe beside Barca and Madrid.

  • AaX

    I feel you, but as you already know we will not stop and will keep pushing on until we win our first UEFA Champions League Trophy. And With Class.

    Don’t worry I don’t think its intentional from Oblak in any means. It’s a different world and set up altogether when the team has the whole duration of the game to make the difference than just a fix of numbers of penalties.

    Whatever it is, We know he’s working hard on it.

    Aupa ATLETI !!

  • elkilo

    Is this site beside the forum really dead?

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    Today marked the perfect example as to why we cant push to the next level

  • Max Huber

    It seems like that! It’s a pity, because it was the best Atleti fanpage!

  • Max Huber

    Simeones playing tactics! Chelsea – I don’t like this club at all – but they have so much quality this season! Morata is crack!! Hazard was amazing and unfortunately Atleti was the far worse team!

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    I don’t see how for 3 or 4 seasons now that they seem to think the problem is with the striker. It’s our tactics in games like these and our lack of midfield creativity. Only our fullbacks are allowed to cross and majority of the time Felipe Luiz has to be the most creative person on the pitch for us

  • AnonX

    I think we were not as tight as we usually have always been against the big teams did underestimated them a bit. The problem was I think we let Hazzard ran too loose and Juanfran wasn’t quite at his best to nullify and lock him out as he would usually do.
    Pity Vrsaljko couldn’t play as I think he would be just perfect to mark out Hazzard’s turn of pace.

    But I agree that we didn’t play better than the opposition like how we could.

  • Atleti lover

    Gus just you simeone very poor performance very bad team!!!!!!!!!!
    Out of solutions and out of tactics

  • Atleti lover

    Fuck you simeone!!!!! Stupid

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    I want you all (who will read this) to admit the truth about “our” Atleti. We shall win nothing and continue to win nothing as long as this continues

  • AnonX

    We have a serious problem now. With 4 attackers on the field we can’t even get one on the back of the net.
    Nobody gets Simeone attacking tactics. Fielding Gameiro who barely had only a decent game and leaving Correa on the bench when we know we got to register goals in the first half ??
    By the time of his delayed entrace the opponent have already settled themselves in defence and we didn’t have enough time to create the goal.

    Simeone is very below standard in his grasp and idea of a creative offensive gameplay.

    And who can win anything in football if they DON’T KNOW HOW TO EFFICIENTLY ATTACK ??
    Nobody wins if there are no goals.

    Extremely worried and dissappointed on such prolonged unimprovement.

    This SHOULD BE THE WAKE UP POINT !

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    Goals win games and our inability to even create chances is the reason why we always struggle.

    Game in game out I’ve seen us sit deep against every single opposition and then hope for something on the other end
    Our game by game mentality is long gone and all we have now is this nonsense of hoping for Diego Costa to return to score goals but football does not work like that. If we do not show progression amd other sides do then going back to what worked means absolutely nothing. Our tactics are dated and we NEED creativity and a system that stops Griezmann from having to over work

  • Atleti lover

    This is very bad team very bad result very bad attack ! Simeone is out of solutions and tactics! Just defense defense and defense
    #sack Simeone
    #ATM out if champions league!!

  • othman

    To be honest, when you look at the starting eleven yesterday, it’s far from being a defensive team. But we were unable to score even one goal. The reason for me is that Simeone is not working on attacking aspect, its clear that there is no automatism in the middle and the attack, When you are used to play just defense, you cannot wake up one day and play an attacking football.

  • othman

    Absolutely true.
    Griezman is not only over working, but he is doing that very far from the opponent cage.
    We all saw that we are not as efficient in defence as we were three years ago, so we should try to create more to score more than the opponent.

  • Atletico

    Its so sad to see, especially with the type of attacking players we have. The sad truth is we have the worst attacking play in la liga, the attacks are extremely slow and predictable, the players look so clueless in attack. Sometimes it feels like our midfield is none existent. We’ve actually had this problem for about 2 seasons now the only difference is that its starting to show in the results.there are a lot of games were we lost because simeone decided to sit back, it then kills our momentum, the game against barca that we drew was very frustrating to see,especially when we attacked so well first half then second half we decided to sit back once again, he’s done that so many times against barca but its never worked but he keeps doing it. The funny thing is even while we’re sitting deep, we have no idea how to counter attack, they just kick the ball and hope for the best smh. I think if atletico wants to move to a new level we need to get rid of simeone, I’m so jealous of Valencia

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    I like winning but i hate the style of football we play to be quite honest

  • AnonX

    I’m with you. I appreciate the effort put in to secure us this win but this approach will never help us improve our inadequate offensive quality hence the goal tally.

    Let me be the first to inform that We NEED to get the goal machine started as soon as possible because it will be down to goal difference mathematics between us and roma by the end if the Group Matches and our most realistic chance to capitalize on this will be with the return match against Qarabag at The Metropolitano about 10 Days time after a match at Home against Villareal.

    So to me it’s important that we start registering the goals against Elche in the midweek.

    Like Othman said we need to attained ‘automatism’ in our Attacking Play and that requires deliberate preparation, attitude and gametime.
    The short period where we decided to come out to get the goals like we did Tonight and against Barca we actually scored only in a couple of attempts. It means we Always have the Top Class Capibility but our current approach is impeding its Potential. And when you needed to play offensive and get those goals like the last CL match, we were not quick enough and became predictable to the defensive team hence they managed to keep us out. There’s a double edge sword to this Simeone Style and he’d better realize that the way to go Now is Forward.

    FORZA Atleti !!

  • AnonX

    Well I won’t call him as someone to be riden off. He did built us a system that provides the security and confidence we never have had before and is only unique to Atletico de Madrid but I get the frustration.
    In my view it is Better Now for us to capitalize on the solidity that we have established and be brave enough to Start Attacking Again and not to sit on this mentality because in the End it’s Goals that Wins The Game.
    And if that God Forbid is unattainable through Simeone then someone else who is capable to build on from what he has built must come as The Replacement but I think we can still make The Turnaround.

    We Will and has Always an Attacking Force.

  • Atletico

    I see what your saying, he definitely gives us a certain stability and confidence and getting rid of him is a big risk but I had hope that moving to that new stadium will spark a turnaround, I hoped it’ll make us become more daring and adventurous. Now I’m not saying that turnaround necessarily means the firing of simeone but I felt that the man himself would trigger this new mentality I hoped we would get but no its same old, he seems to find it difficult to learn from his past seasons, I see the same mistakes repeated again and again, if he decides to be more attacking or at least have a proper counter attack that be nice but after 2 seasons of stagnation and our current decline it seems unlikely that he’s going to change his tactics hence why I brought up firing him but well lets see how it goes. Forza atleti

  • AnonX

    Yes, giving to much undue credit and respect and inviting them to attack for the greater part of the game is not the way to go, not anymore as Jeronamo has mentioned.
    We have enough competent and solid defensibility , It’s time Simeone grow up his Courage and Balls to attack more as we are One of The Best at it. I’m just asking for at least 40-45% of Attacking gametime.
    And afterall Attack is the Best Form of Defense.

    AUPA Atleti !!

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    We were in control of today’s game up until the goal, then Simeone with his wise tactic of sitting back right after scorimg and inviting pressure was given. We conceded and then tried playing football again and ended up drawing the game… Does any of this sound familiar?

  • AnonX

    Gameiro and Vietto have been guilty of wasting dozens of chances prior.
    Why were they continuously favoured eover Torres or Gaitan even when playing badly, I NEVER COULD KNOW.

    Bench them ! They have been denying and costing us winnable games.

    We NEED to create chances and the only players that could do them is injured (Koke) and benched (Gaitan) today.

    Please give Acknowledgement to the Creative Aspect of the Game Simeone.
    Or you will Never Move ON.

  • AnonX

    Too much, too costly !
    Should have gone for the second since we have some good degree of control.
    He has been out of touch of the game lately.

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    I’m starting to wonder if it even matters what makes sense anymore. Anyone who saw that game could tell that taking your foot off the pedal would cause problems

  • Atletico

    My thoughts exactly, it just never works, time and time again it fails but we do it anyway, the sad truth is we’ll see this in the next game and the next

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    Agreed… And I’m tired of it

  • Maura

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. By this definition, Simeone is legally insane. The cycle with Atletico these days is: score a goal, sit back and defend, concede a goal late in the game, repeat next game.

    Other decent teams score a goal and then try to score a second one to put the game away. They don’t score one then park the bus and give up possession the rest of the game.

  • Atletico

    Exactly! its so baffling, especially when I watch smaller teams going for the second goal , I just have to wonder why we can’t do that ourselves with the qaulity we have smh.its almost like we’re playing one half of this sport,that obviously won’t take you far. You know what makes this draw even more frustrating? Its the fact that realMadrid dropped points today, its not like we would have known the realMadrid result ahead of time but it would have been good if we were 2 points ahead of them

  • AnonX

    DIDN’T EVERYBODY WARNED THIS ???!!!!#$??

    THANK YOU SIMEONE FOR YOUR STUBBORNESS TO PLAY THE WAY YOU PLAY AND IN INSISTING TO FIELD AN OFF FORM IDIOT STRIKER IN A VERY IMPORTANT CRUCIAL MATCH WHICH HAS NOW COST US DEARLY.

    WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE IF YOU START WITH TORRES INSTEAD OF IDIOT GAMEIRO ??!!!
    I DON’T SEE ANY LESS EXEPT IN GAMEIRO.

    NOW THE QUALIFICATION IS NOT IN OUR HAND.

    YOU DO DESERVE THIS BUT THE PLAYERS AND WE SHOULD’NT.

  • Atletico

    Honestly I’m not surprised at all,I said it last week, we are still going to play the same way,same tactis same wasteful players,my only hope right now is that we go out of Europe completely because I have a feeling if we qualify for the europa league we’ll be embarrassed once again

  • Roberto

    Horrible! Griezman does not work hard -his goal is to put atleti on 3rd place to be able to go at christmas to manchester or london; gaitan – was steong at benfica but at atleti a catastrophe; the same with Gameiro at Sevilla a strong target-man for crosses at atleti just a rediculous decisive match-looser, and Simeone completely desaster, only his hard seems to be on the right place, all the rest chaos! Ancelotti and Luis Enrique are free!

  • AaX

    I guess most of us are just too tired to keep saying out the same thing.
    And Allow me just make this Clear from my part.

    I am NEVER AGAINST the fact that Atletico under Simeone transited from being an Attacking but porous team into A Superb Defensively Solid Counter-Attacking Team. In fact I Am Proud and Very Grateful of what he has made the Team and Club to be with the Great Honourable Titles and Status We’ve Achieved.

    What I am Totally Against right now is that the team somewhat IN COMPLACENCY has slid down from playing the Aggressive Counter Attacking game style to just playing some sort of counter defending which is TOTALLY OPPOSITIONAL to the mentality and positivity of the previous.
    How is that practicle nor virtuous when instead of fighting to get the closing goals as we usually do we somehow now are more resign to just sit back, absorb all opponents offense for the whole match just defending a 1 goal lead ??
    Where’s the coherent logic in that as equally Am I baffled as to why and when this start to happened.

    I noticed this the matches around our SemiFinal clash against rectal madrid. Do you realize that we let real of the hook (again) where after taking a thunderous 2-0 lead in just the First 20 min at the Mighty Calderon, Simeone was then seen to instruct the team to halt the attack ??!!
    We could have pulverized real 5-0 in that burning night but No, We decided it was enough and time to defend a 2-3 aggregate that is not not even 3-3 against these fagtards ?
    What happened to Simeone at this point onwards I still don’t have any clear idea to Understand.

    Simeone stated The Style has always been the same since the start and the difference is just whether we score the goals or not.
    I would like to Totally Differ,
    The STYLE IS NOT THE SAME as it was. We were actually trying to get the killing goals to close up the game in Spirit and Intensity.
    Now somehow we switched our philosophy from fighting to getting the winner to resign and sit back absorbing all attacks in hope to win the game in defense in what I call Counter-Defending, The Anti-Thesis to Club Atletico de Madrid.

    NEVER HAS THIS IS ATLETICO and As with Red and White Blooded Atletis, Simeone knows it.

    RETURN US BACK TO FIGHTING FOR THE GOALS TO WIN ! NO Excuse.

    GANAR y GANAR y GANAR

    NOW and ALWAYS !

  • AnonX

    The style we’ve been playing lately has and will NEVER Help.

  • AaX

    Of course then we will be struggling in piecing up our Attacking game when we decided to go All Offensive because the cohesion is absent simply by the fact there hasn’t been adequate forethought and empasis of it in our previous games.
    The zero goals in 32 attempts testified to that.

    WAKE UP,

    VAMOS Atleti !!

  • Atletico

    You’re right the style we are playing right now is devoid of any fluidity in terms of attacking play,one thing is to have attacking talent or creativity the other is for your manager to utilize it that isn’t happening. Oh and interns of getting a new manager do you guys think thomas tuchel would be a good change?

  • Atletico

    Yea I agree, for some reason simeone has decided to play timid and uncreative football, I had seen signs of this in a couple of games some seasons ago , do you remember when we were knocked out of the Champions league at the qauterfinal stage by real Madrid? I remember simeone taking out all the attacking players we had and putting in defensive minded players,this made it hard for us to go forward and relief pressure from the defense and eventually we conceded. There are many more games this happened especially against barca not necessarily the fact that he took out all attack minded players but more on the fact that we set up completely defensive and eventually our defense cracks under the pressure right that tactic is being exposed either by poor finishing at times which in turn exposes the fact that we barely creat chances or some teams have figured us out either I don’t see simeone change his tactics ,saddest part is there isn’t any fight in the team I recall us winning every free ball on the pitch, its like even the players are tired of his tactics, I’m also curious as to why savic keeps starting ahead of giminez anyway even if we decide to work on our attacking chemistry, it’ll be to late by then, we’ll probably be out of the Champions League and definitely out of the la liga title race (if we aren’t out already)

  • Maura

    Do you really think that any Premier League team is going to even want Greizmann the way he is playing? I would not spend 100 million on a player who can’t score, especially in big games. Look to the 2016 UCL final and European Championship final as well as the match against Qarabag in Madrid to see how well he scores in big games. The only players who seem to try these days are Correa and Lucas (who should be playing more in my opinion).

  • Maura

    I agree with you. I remember 2-3 seasons ago, the philosophy was to play every game as if it were a final. The players scrapped and fought for every loose ball and the defence was a wall that could not be penetrated. Even the offence and midfield were better at creating chances. Making the players fit Simeone’s system is not working anymore. A good trainer sees the strengths and weaknesses of the players and designs a system that emphasises the strengths. The best trainers don’t force players to adapt to their system in an unnatural way. For example, Jackson Martinez, Mario Mandzukic, and Nico Gaitan, and even Luciano Vietto were great with their former teams before coming to Atletico. They were forced to play in Simeone’s system instead of Simeone letting them play to their strengths. Don’t get me wrong. Simeone has done great things for Atletico. But the best trainers change their tactics when they find that what they are doing is not working. If they don’t, they get fired. Simeone needs to take a long, hard look at what is not working and try to fix it instead of doing the cycle of: score a goal, play defence, concede a late goal, repeat the next game.

    Most teams now do not play a 4-4-2. A 4-4-2 can work if you are an inferior team playing against a much better opponent. But the better teams now play 3-5-2 (Juventus), 4-3-3, or 4-3-2-1. The good teams also don’t score a goal then sit back and park the bus in front of the goal for the rest of the match. They go for a second goal to put the game away before becoming more defensive. Teams like Bayern keep going for the goals even when they are ahead 4-0.

  • AnonX

    Precisely ! Very well pointed out.

  • AnonX

    To be honest I have no idea who would better yet. But I know that this mindset must see an important change after this 2 weeks break to even stand the slightest chance.

  • AnonX

    I wonder too. To me Gimenez is the perfect personification of The Atletico Defender.

  • Atleti lover

    Please sack this shitty out of solutions SIMEONE… this is very bad football we can’t score against any team because of his tactics

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    Well winning against Depor will mean one thing you guys can look forward to and that is, the same old football we’ve been playing

  • Randy Ved Jawahir

    I think in addition to simeone’s poor choice of tactics, injuries and out of form players that the new stadium may have a part to play as well. Teams feared visiting the Calderon. All teams as it was intimidating and hostile, the Wanda is more a relaxing and party atmosphere and isn’t as intimidating as the Vicente Calderon
    But Diego costa and vitolo can’t come soon enough, we need them desperately, come on January

  • Randy Ved Jawahir

    We win games but it’s so ugly
    Like come on! Simeone, We have more than enough talented players to play 4-3-3 and play your pressing game at the same time.. also these players are more than capable of attacking and finishing as seen by previous records. Please switch to 4-3-3 and play GIMENEZ instead of Savic

    Oblak
    Juanfran- godin- gimenez- Filipe
    Koke Thomas/gabi Saul
    Correa/Gaitan Griezmann Carrasco

  • Roberto

    Ancelotti or luis Enrique, maybe eusebio from real sociedad, please act immideately mr cerezo and mr gil, or mr. Wanda

  • AnonX

    Sharing the same line-up with yours. But it will not amount to anything if we remain comfortable in sitting back than going for the second or third goal to close the game up. ONLY then the quality of our offense will improve.

  • AnonX

    Nor is being insistant in fielding 4 defensive mids no matter how in form the strikers are (Good though for Simeone recognizing Correa over Gamiero).
    It was also again from A Brilliant Partey’s strike from a setpiece that we stole this important win, but not through the open play as expectedly should.

  • Atletico

    Sorry mate thats not happening, cerezo said in a recent interview that simeone is untouchable, my weekend was going so well until I saw that

  • Atletico

    I just heard Gimenez wants out and is willing to force a move on top of that cerezo came out to say simeone is untouchable , man there goes all the joy for the week

  • AnonX

    1. SAVIC IS AN IDIOT WEAK-LINK (And for being preferred over Godin and a GREAT mystery to me why he is rated highly above Gimenez and Lucas which is UTTER NONSENSE with the numerous mishaps displayed made)

    2. VIETTO IS AN OBVIOUS IDIOT (For even being called on the pitch over Gameiro)

    3. AND SIMEONE IS THE BIGGEST OF IDIOT ( For even having the ‘balls’? making those hideous decisions !!!)

    With these kind of garbage WE DESERVED NOT TO PROGRESS !

  • AaX

    And YES, Get Rid of Savic and Vietto ASAP before we are completely ruined.

    I Have Already said what I have on Simeone.

    But the BADGE IS ABOVE ALL ELSE.

  • Dircil

    For the football played now, its definitely not worth the investment we put this summer. Nevertheless, what we have achieved so far is stability in terms of pitch performance and finance. Having said that, Im not happy with Simeone’s decision on the field but arguably it is hard to find a manager for whom the players want to fight. Im very content with what Simeone has brought to our club so far and this year’s performance is a flop but guys look at what we have achieved in previous years? 2 CL in 3 consecutive years is unquestionably remarkable given the fact that we havent acquired any top class player since the signing of Griezmann. I dont understand why u guys are moaning about the current performance of the club. I remember a few years ago quite few frequent fans of this site criticized harshly about Simeone’s coaching style but look at what he has achieved. I’d rather have Simeone for longer because I believe 1 year flop does not judge the guy’s talent.

  • Atletico

    Hey guys there’s a proper atletico fan website, its called intothecalderon,it pretty much like how this one used to be, with articles and a discussion forum as well. Check it out!

  • AnonX

    I hear you, But I rather have someone who actually will get to win us Our First Champions League thanan Arsene Wenger (no offense) by maximizing the potential of this team in every department. Being ungrateful and objectively pointing out what is wrong is two definitely separate things. Atletico has much much more potential than a negative 4 def midfielders mindset. That’s an anti-thesis of the Team and Simeone was there when we won the 96/97. We were not this negative and he knew that as that also with our 13/14 Title. We can only pull that once because the oppositions were adapting to our style pretty quickly. That happened within the next 2 years.

    I’m VERY Grateful of the Status and Stability that Simeone has made us Achieved. But after 5 years following the team at every once or twice 3AM weekly, I’m now forced to start to question whether is this the Best Atletico that can ever be ??

    My Heart is saying MOST DEFINITELY NOT !

    (Replacing Simeone to me should be the last no other option resort, not the immediate answer because he himself has to learn to adapt and overcome his overcautious fears and grew bigger balls because that’s what it takes to be an Atleti !!

    So far the positive thing is we are not content to sit back with a 1-0 lead and keep attacking with any formation we had and that’s okay with me but it’s the border line)

    AUPA FORZA ATLETI !!

  • AnonX

    Thanks A lot ! Will surely find out.