The Time Is Now: Atlético out for revenge against Real

Why Champions League semi-final means so much more for the rojiblancos

Rojiblancos unbeaten away from home since December

Rojiblancos unbeaten away from home since December

Carlo Valladares insists that it is about revenge and he wants Atletico Madrid fans to embrace this European matchup for a fourth consecutive time.

Diego Simeone, the Argentine gaffer who has brought titles, hope, and who has broken LaLiga’s duopoly since being appointed in 2011, said the following after their 1-1 draw against Leicester:

“It was a pleasure to compete against Leicester, we lived in fear about what they might do when they came forward in the 2nd half.”

Those are words spoken from a man who certainly respects his opponents, and one that is not afraid to admit his emotions and fears. But, speaking of fear, does El Cholo feel it when he thinks about who awaits Atletico Madrid in the semi-final of the UEFA Champions League? Did flashbacks of failure flood his mind when the world witnessed the semi-final draw on Friday?

We may never know for sure. He will never, due to managerial and public perception, be able to admit such feelings. But, what we do know is that when he insists the semi-final will not be about revenge, we know it’s a lie – it is about revenge. 

How can it not be? Sure, from a professional point of view it may be best to project this non-bias toward the semi-final tie, but every player in that dressing room can’t buy into an objective focus, they’ve had their season-long European aspirations crumble because of this particular opponent for far too long. Consecutively, too.

El Cholo can downplay the media narrative of revenge all he wants, but the pressure is on more than ever to finally put their Real Madrid ghosts and demons to rest, to not be ‘El Pupas’ -The Cursed Ones of Madrid anymore. It’s a two-legged battle this time around. An all-white and red-and-white clash awaits, again.

Neutrals are probably tired of this fixture; it’s the fourth consecutive meeting between both Madrid representatives. But we at AtleticoFans.com, and many who call Atleti their club, deep down, want this fixture, and would gladly enjoy lifting the Big Eared trophy knowing we did it by going through Los Blancos. 

The memories of two final defeats would instantly leave our minds. We’d be able to enjoy future Champions League matches without wondering if all of our talent and defensive prowess was for nothing in Europe in the Simeone-era of our club. If we win it all this year, Simeone’s legacy would forever be cemented in the book of Champions League-winning managers, where he rightfully belongs. But first: two-legs against Real Madrid.

The last time the Madrid derby was played in a two-legged UCL affair was in the 14/15 campaign in a last eight tie. Both matches saw Atletico’s world class organization and defense at the forefront, but, ultimately, after 180 scoreless minutes, Javier Hernandez would score a last-minute goal to put his side ahead and seal our exit.

But that is the past, and Los Rojiblancos are better than they were in the 14/15 season, they’re more complete. Sure, we have issues at providing a killer instinct when we’ve earned quality chances. Our finishing is suspect at times, it has been for a number of matches this season. Atleti’s recent 1-0 defeat to Villarreal at the Vicente Calderon further is proof of this.

This weakness aside, there’s no reason to believe that we can’t beat them in Europe this time around. Perhaps, fourth times a charm, right? What happened in Lisbon and Milan were done by the slimmest of margins. We were moments away from victory in the former and unlucky at penalties in the latter.

Still losers, yes. 

However, in other competitions, we’ve been on the winning end against them. Under Simeone’s leadership, we’ve beaten them numerous times in LaLiga, a 4-0 win at the Vicente Calderon standing out the most. Furthermore, Atleti has beaten their rival in a Spanish Supercopa series and in a Copa del Rey final.

 

Our latest result against Real was a 1-1 draw at the Bernabeu, too.

All of the titles and matches won above can happen in Europe as well, even more so in a two-legged affair; that is Simeone’s bread and butter. But, we need to have our killer instinct intact, we need to seize all of the chances that come our way when we create them. We need to score goals.

Atletico Madrid is better than they have ever been in possession of the football, and now is the time to really demolish this Real Madrid collective of stars. They’re finishers, I’ll give them that. They don’t lose finals, rarely do. But, we’re two-leg specialists. There is no better opportunity than the one ahead.

Simeone is currently planning for a home and away affair against Real Madrid. The time is now. We want European revenge. 


  • Zinni DUDU

    It will be toughest game so far this season. Everything has to go in the right way, if we want a good result in the Bernabeu. For me – it will be decisive to shut down Marcelo and Carvajal from putting their crosses in, which means that our both wingers – no matter who plays – have to track them back. From open play Real is not really strong. I never saw them combining or bursting thorugh past 2 or 3 players, because Ronaldo has lost his pace, Benzema is slow, Bale is out and Isco is not the type of player to do things what Messi does for example.

    So two things: Defend set-pieces well and do not let them put their crosses in. If we are able to deny them doing both of these things, they will loose their main threat.

    And we have to hit them well on the counter. I hope that Gameiro, Griezmann and Carrasco will start all together to give us the most pace as possible, to hurt them. The Real defense is not so strong as people would guess. If you are able to put them under pressure they will loose their composure for sure. I hope also that our game will be not so conservative by only sitting back as we did in the year 2015. But I think between 2015 and now alot of things happend. Griezmann matured, Saul matured, Koke matured, Gameiro and Carrasco came to the team, Filipe is back.

    It has to be this year to beat Real. Four times in a row getting kicked out by Real in the CL is to hard to take..

  • thericeking

    agreed..

    i wanted us to get them in the semis. i think we can beat them over 2 legs but i think we need to attack in the first leg, hard and not just absorb and counter…

    but your way works too

  • Los Blanco

    You’re delusional if you think that Patetico will win. Patetico chokes then they face a team that plays the same system as them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_QqGY7s_F0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpThc-ZAaqU

  • Vagabond Messi

    No talk of revenge please, we’ve been talking of revenge since last 3 season and it didn’t happen. Just take it as i very important cl match againdt a big side.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Good analysis Man but i think if we allow them to camp in our own box for 90m, sooner or later they’re going to score from header, no matter how good is our defense. You just can’t deal with pin point crosses for entire 90m. As you said they’re not that good with open play so imo, we should be pressing them instead of sit back in our own area and absorb pressure. We’ve to trust our offense and go for second goal if we score once. Hopefully Cademiro get sent off tommorow.

  • Los Blanco

    Good luck with that.

  • jodo

    I thought 2016 in Milan was revenge? Oh.

    Let’s forego the revenge talk and just win/draw the games as needed.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Thats my concern aswell. A mix between pressing them high and dropping deep would be the best solution. I think you cannot deny a great attacking team like Real 90 Minutes going forward, because it will take alot of energy to press them high. But the players should be matured enough to realize, when Real looks tired and then we have to press them high and put them under pressure. I think that Real Madrids physical ablitiy is not so high as ours. We are used to chase every fucking ball. Espically Modric and Kroos look always after the hour-mark really tired. While our players -especially Koke, Saul, Griezmann, Filipe and Carrasco – have a great fucking engine. They can run 90 Minutes without getting tired. I really see us pressing them high after the hour mark when they are tired. Maybe with the fresh legs of Torres and Correa aswell. That was for me the saddest thing in Milan. We were the physical stronger side while Real looked death tired and we were still not able to kill the game. This has to change this time by using our stronger engine to kill the game.

  • Vagabond Messi

    I think with right substitution we can press them for 70minutes just like how Psg did against Barca , then sit back for 20mimute. Problem with sitting back is you do their midfield work by conceding midfield and let them come near box.we would’ve won cl in 2014 if we didn’t give ball straight to Madrid in 92minute, keeping posession for a while is not bad sometimes. Our defense is best, there’s no debate over it but their crosses are too much and they’ve 4-6 players who can score on crosses. I don’t know what to expect but if Simeone park the bus for 90m like his did in 3015at cl qf at Bernabeu then itS over for us. Also playing 4 Cms with no pace and creativity upfront will be suicidal. I Hope Carrasco , Griezmann and Gameiro play.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Carlo please make a new thread and don’t talk about revenge in that pre match thread .

  • Ratchet

    I wouldn’t say that Real play the same system Atletico do though. Not even close.

  • Vagabond, the piece above is an opinion piece. I want revenge.

    Perhaps another writer will do a match preview.

  • Alexander Jaehyuk Choi

    Griezmann, Gameiro and Yannick must start for that pace on the break. However we can’t just camp in our box as Carvajal and Marcelo will whip balls into the box and simply we have to stop them from putting crosses because out of the last 10 goals we have conceded, 9 of them have been from crosses (set piece, corner or open play). Aah please don’t make this 4 times.

  • Alexander Jaehyuk Choi

    100 agree with that.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Carlo we all want revenge and are filled with anger but this jinx thing make me worry.

  • MerengueDomination

    Atleti always beat us when they super pressed and counter in la liga but in Europe they seem to lack the same conviction or confidence infront of goal. I think Real got a nice boost by playing the 2nd leg at Calderón because 1-1 or 2-1 at Bernabeu are attainable and Real should be able to score at the Calderón too specially if the team is under pressure. Atleti has to go for 2 goals at least if they mean business, pretty sure 1 away goal will do nothing for their cause. This year everyone has played much less games thanks to ZZ’s rotations so I woun’t count on the team getting tired, you better be ready to run for 90mins. May the best team win! Can’t wait.

  • I’m not superstitious.

  • Vagabond Messi

    I just hope you handle the defeat if it comes . revenge talk and all made defeat even more bitter.

  • Roberto

    If the football god has any feeling for justice, atletico shall have the necessary luck in the decisive moments

  • Zinni DUDU

    I can understand your point that we should not seek for revenge, but if you look to fotos like these wants, revenge is the only thing I want to happen

  • Zinni DUDU

    I can understand your point that we should not seek for revenge, but if you look to fotos like these one, revenge is the only thing I want to happen https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d63b171339fc497fff1479eea970a10a139386404ef82e9cd09575481cb2560c.png

  • Roberto

    Atleti, please think about and focus on the great games You played against real madrid in la liga and copa del rey in the last 4 years! Think about winning even against super barca twice in the champions…… It is just a question of time, when we kick the merengues out of the champions league! And tonight and in a week in calderon it can allready happen, this si exciting! Real Madrid knows that Atleti will not stay anymore very long the little brother in town 😉

  • Vagabond Messi

    I was angry because of referee favouring them in last year cl. I also want revenge but players need to play with cool head. Ironically we’ve made least number of fouls in the cl amoung remaing semifinalist, yet we’re deemed dirty. So players shouldn’t give referee any chance , if we play well and convert our chances revenge will come.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Yeah you are right. Was the same thing last year against Barcelona, where Torres made two fouls and he got sent off. Iniesta denied in the return match a clearing chance and he got a yellow card. Well Well Well

  • Vagabond Messi

    Savic starting as RB makes me nervous, hoping for a win tonight. Aupa Atleti

  • Vagabond Messi

    Carvajal almost produced a goal. Again a set piece, we seem to be playing right in their hands.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Tapin king strikes.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Now i want Atleti to play all out game. We need away goal.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Sitting to deep…and letting them putting their crosses in= goal

  • Vagabond Messi

    Not having right back is also allowing them to find hole. Griezmann and Filipe looked gassed thanks to no rotation. We’ll lose big if we keep sitting deep, their corners and headerd are too accurate. We needed a player who could keep posession a bit.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Gameiro missed shit, that looks like a penalty not given to us

  • Zinni DUDU

    Chip the fucking ball. Is that so hard if the fucking keeper comes out?

  • Vagabond Messi

    Yeah he’s 30 and don’t kmow basic of striker. Chip it whatever happens.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Why on earth our players get crowded at right side while taking ball out? Use space.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Maybe Torres should have played. His experience would be better.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Second half Torres should be fresh and surely he’s a better finisher but he lost pace.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Do you see only one Madrid player is outside box to cross while 4-5 players are in the box. While in our case it’s 4 players outside box trying to do something while only one in box.

  • Zinni DUDU

    I am waiting for half time. Simeone needs to kick their asses in half time. A 2:0 would be really bad.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Our playerd can’t even make simple 5m pass , again a chance wasted. I think Correa should be on for Carrasco. lol he just shot right in to legs of Madrid player.

  • Vagabond Messi

    For God sake Koke ñeeds to stop taking corners.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Real getting taste of their own medicine.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Cunt Ramos elbowed and not getting any card.

  • KO ROLLINS

    Gameiro is very bad

  • Vagabond Messi

    Yes he was very bad, but that chance came just because of his pace. Unfortunately he has nothing else to offer. I’ve been against this signing, not because of his height but his finishing.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Carrasco is useless if there’s not open space left to run. Bring on Correa.

  • Zinni DUDU

    I still do not get how Griezmann can laugh when the score is 0:1? I really miss the toughness and ambition of players like Garcia or Costa

  • Vagabond Messi

    Raul Garcia was a fine header and could get goal out of nothing. Our defenders also used to score. Now all we have is Koke sending corners to opposition players.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Maybe our worst game in terms of attacking. I do not see any tactics or ideas going forward. We need an away goal

  • Vagabond Messi

    Sell this primodona Carrssco , we need humble players like Gaitan. Replace Carrasco with Correa

  • Vagabond Messi

    Wtf i just saw 7 players on the righht trying to make a cross and noone in box , hilarious.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Tie is over.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Fucking 3 defenders can’t clear a ball.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Without away goal, yes. Even Valencia managed to score in the Bernabeu. Fuck

  • Zinni DUDU

    Tie is over

  • atleti lover

    Fuck you simeone super loser mentality

  • Zinni DUDU

    Playing with only two CM killed the game and made us open to counter attacks.

  • KO ROLLINS

    Juventus is the last hope guys

  • Karlp

    so so many nightmares (literally) ahead

  • jflaskjfdl

    Shots in the game : RM 1635551684651- ATM 3
    Goals in the game : RM 3 – ATM 0
    You can say god was with us today.

  • KO ROLLINS

    they buried us completely

  • jodo

    The only one to show up was Oblak, everyone else was abysmal. Simeone didn’t have any answers. Let’s be honest, Madrid was dominant and deserved to win big.

  • Atletico

    The tie is over guys!! It’s been a good run. Unlike the atleti teams of previous seasons there’s no fight in them. Atleti also seem to have difficulty attacking its almost like they practice on their defense through out training. This loss really hurts , I won’t say I’m surprised though

  • Zinni DUDU

    Zidane has found the key to beat Atletico. Score an early goal and defend and counter attack them. We are just not able to create chances if a team drops deep.

  • Zinni DUDU

    That must be the easiest cleansheet for Keylor Navas for 4 Months now

  • KO ROLLINS

    atletico strikers = 0

    Torres is like 45 years old
    Griezmann is not a legit striker
    Gameiro sucks ass people he just sucks that’s it

  • Zinni DUDU

    I really wish it would be today only about shit strikers today. Saul doing his usual stuff by not closing the gaps. Koke created only one chances for Gameiro and was not able to do anything. Godin with shit positioning. Lucas played out of position. Carrasco did nothing. Everyone beside Oblak was shit.

  • KO ROLLINS

    i think this is the right time for Simeone to fuck off and let someone who can actually recognize the badass talents over a fucking worthless bums

  • Roberto

    Horrible! Oblak was the only performer today! But Oblaks bad performance in the penalty soot outs in milan final is the reason, why we still have to suffer, and will maybe suffer another 50 years! Griezmann is allready with his head in manchester. Simeone has not anymore this motivation power he had snd he has no tactical ideas anymore! It is really time, that he leaves, to protect this, what he has established, if he stays he is giing ti demolish it himselves…. and spanish officials and functioneers were (2014 and 2016!!!) and are toooo stupid to intervent politically (referees…) to get a 3rd big champion, which would be a boost for the spanish league in the fight against premier league for worldwide market shares.

  • Roberto

    Real Madrid is the canibal of spanish football. Like Bayern in Germany. This 4 wins against Atleti are pyric wins. It would have been even better for Real to have one final lost. They are too stupid and narrow minded to check this. A revival of a Barca Real Hegenomy in Spain, which is of course forced by this 4 wins, will make the spanish league boring and as a consequence hard to sell. Thus in the end also real will get less tv money! Thus also real madrid will be overtake in 5 years by the english and maybe german teams again. I do not know why the oficials and functioneers of Spain like Aznar, Tebas, the King and Villar did not try to intervene in the second final in Milan to assure a win of Atleti if the game is tight. It would have been easy to nominate the right referee. And the real madrid fans are much too stupid to check this mechanism.

  • AaX

    Im gonna break my silence and for the sake of PERSONAL Sanity am gonna have a go !!

    First and foremost Atleti were NON EXISTANT !!

    How and Why ???

    There are players who are born to play in big occasion and there are players who isn’t.

    As I’ve said before Savic seemed to be isn’t one of them. The occasion may have got above him and we saw that early Savic who let in Christina scored the 3-0 win earlier at the Calderon.
    He has occasional concentration lapse bug and Not my primary choice if fighting against rectal madrid.

    And then to make matters worst our Cholo became somewhat desperate to get the equalizer uncharacteristically. The occasion also got to him because he decided to abandon the tactical defensive shell and tried to play Koke and Gabi in central midfield after having not done so in any consequential success for Eons.

    Some of you here might just be commentators and some of you here might actually be a sportsman and as sportsmen, If you are Good at something You STICK to it ! ESPECIALLY when you are competing at the HIGHEST Level !!

    So when Simeone decided to withdrew Saul and not replacing him with either Thomas or Tiago, that’s when our team became apparently fragile and vulnerable .Why ?? Some of you would think that’s the obvious choice to go for attacking setups for the away goals but have you not ever notice that Atleti never knew how to attack or build up effective attacking movements nor play in possession since 2 years back. Period they have been abandoning this system since the start of the season and now relying back to this at the final stages ?? real just then exploited those big opened spaces and it tolled with the next two goals coming in as we were ripped apart. Those comical errors were very much preventable by having more mids there to shield off the defenders from incoming through ball passes, attackers and bundling balls as we already knew they were good at.
    Savic’s erroneous block led to the 2nd goal chaos and there were no actual players there covering the incoming strike of the 3rd. This scenarios were unthinkable of the team but what you thought couldn’t happen happened when ‘we’ succumbed to nonsensical doubts and pressures generated more in our own minds than the real life match statistics and facts and choked.

    I think this first leg was a tactical catastrophe
    but we Must Immediately Recover !!!
    .
    Simeone should NOT be so desperate and should just hang on even if it means trailing the first leg with 1 goal with or without any away goals.
    We cannot play like ‘barce4lona’ now simply because we have declined the opportunity to develop attacking and/or possession play from the beginning of the season because for 2 attacking moves from a team like ‘barca’, it took 4 moves from Atleti to achieve the same effect which is such a sad decline but that is All Okay if you have already fixed your style and philosophy of play and remain. You can call it our attacking inefficiency rather than deficiency. and I know that’s what sometime is excruciatingly frustrating but you can really be strong being indecisive, You got to choose one and grow Great and Strong.

    What we have developed over the course of the season is a very solid and stable 3 def mids man with 3 quick and sharp attackers and have paid dividends since.
    I just can’t believe Simeone was somewhat affected enough because apart from that early erroneous headed goal we knew real was already manageable. I sincerely do not sense any more conceded goals.
    But there are justifiable causefor concern too because Our fighting bite and intensity were not evident and missing than usual. I just saw players more jogging around and didn’t come in with strong, fast and often enough challenges apart from Griezmann and didn’t look to want to win the ball hard enough as before ?? It beckons me to question,
    Were they that nervous ?? After drawing and almost winning here the last outing this position was quite baffling and have to go ??!!
    Really this is old.

    What do I think it should be.

    Simeone should not have changed formation at all especially at opponent’s place.
    And if it were me I would have started with Gaitan over Carrasco simply because he wasn’t fit and playing the last match and bring him in when and as needed. If Saul played badly then you should bring Thomas in to replace him. Instead Where was Thomas ?!! He was highly motivated and morale was high for playing well the previous match, but wasn’t he even considered ? Correa would be great to sub in but I am sorry I can’t see Torres posing any threat lately although I hope I’m wrong in the upcoming 2nd leg later.
    Those were uncharacteristic contradictions in Simeone’s choice last night but it’s for Him NOW to make it up.
    Of course were were looking for away goals but to abandon our tactical defensive shape thinking we can string those needed effective passes like other attacking teams succesfully did here now was suicidal.

    After all the Pressure is OFF,
    The next game it is COMPULSORY for me to have Gimenez play, And hopefully somehow Juanfran recovers too in time.
    Stick to our usual stable and solid formation and as the game requires we can then switch to more attacking setups as needed MAINLY because this is CAULDER-it-ON and probably no other options left in Play. But that must got done so expertly, accurately and astutely.
    An above all, RUN and FIGHT for Us either Until Victory is Achieved or an Honourable Fighting Pride end but end with the Former for the Final Time at Our Majestically Magical and Historically Honourable Estadia Vicente Calderon.

    All in all was said I think we still have One FINAL Chance at The Vicente Calderon and if there’s only one team that is left ABLE to do it, ………

    It is None Other but ATLETICO de MADRID.

    FORZA Atleti !!
    Ganar y Ganar y Ganar !!!

    And We Shall GOD Willing.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Bs, we didn’t even create a chance when we were deep and Madrid were all over us. We’re also shit at counter attacking. All the attack was going through right lol when their Carvajal was injured . Simeone is too dense with tactics. And none of the goal came from counter , but with Madrid posession. We shat bed , Carrasco is a left winger but Simeone used him as right as a result all attack and players were clustered in right side.

  • KO ROLLINS

    and i am hearing news here and there that they want to sign fucking Lacazette that nobody asked for ,they will never fucking learn from their mistakes

  • Vagabond Messi

    Main problem is midfielders ,they create nothing . They just defend and throw long balls aimlessly. Griezmann,Carraeco , Correa , Gameiro. These are 4 fucking attackers but goal remain a elusive. Are they all shit? No problem is midfield. Buying one more attackers won’t do a shit. Play 433 with 3 attackers and 3 good midfielders.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Valencia coach atleast know how to counter attack and do things with ball unlike Simeone. Who starts every match with purpose of defending .

  • Los Blanco

    Your whole team is garbage. Juventus can attack, and defend. That is a real team.

  • AndersAT

    Awfull performance against RM. I just hope we give them a run for their money in the next game. Although the chances are slim I still have faith. With two quick goals it will be an intense affair.

    We definitely need some top class reinforcements this summer, and if the ban is not lifted it would be a major blow. I have been very disappointed with Correa and Gaitan this season. I really hope we buy a top class RW this summer (don’t know who though). With Augusto coming back I think we are set in the CM. we need backup on the LB if Theo doesn’t come back. I am not sure on what to do in attack. If Griezmann stays I actually think we should buy a young striker to take the backup role (as a Dane I have to say Dolberg from AJax). If Griezmann or Gameiro leaves we need to bring in a top striker (Costa is always an issue). I don’t know about Lacazette…

  • Los Blanco

    Griezmann should move to FC Barcelona. Your club is beyond pathetic.

  • Randy Ved Jawahir

    https://youtu.be/mxYwRY4RbtY
    Hoping for a game like this in the 2nd leg
    Although it’s highly unlikely
    Aupa Atleti!
    I think we had a pretty good season, semi finals in both ucl and CDR( we were robbed vs Barca but that’s life I guess) and we’ve got third place on the lock down. No trophies but a decent season

  • Zinni DUDU

    The club does not seem to understand that Griezmann fits best with a more physical striker who can lead the line. The Gameiro/Griezmann partnership is maybe good against teams who are sitting back and defending. But I never saw Gameiro performing well against good teams; not a single match. Torres is past his best, but he still showed his best games this season against Bayern and Barcelona, which shows you the difference between Gameiro and Torres.

    Lacazette has scored alot of goals this season, but alot of penaltys were scored by him aswell. I do not know, if bringing in a striker from a different country would help us immediately. He said himself he prefers a team who is attacking well and playing alot of short passes. After the game this week everybody should have realised now, that players like Garcia, Costa, Gabi, Tiago, Turan (he is rat), who are willing to play there hearts out, made us so strong over the years and not players like Saul, Gameiro, Carrasco or Correa. Playing more technical football does not suit us thats all. We need against big teams again a strong defense to build our game and play fast football.

    My dream striker would be Lukkaku, because has everything, which is needed to suceed in our way game. He is fast, strong and likes running into things.

  • KO ROLLINS

    what i can’t understand is the fact that Thomas is not playing why …. how is that even fucking possible the guy is a beast he can defend he can attack he can do every fucking thing but no we should play with saul for no fucking reason fuck this bullshit

  • Zinni DUDU

    Does Simeone have problem with Torres? Correa is injured and now Carrasco is getting in? This man does simply not understand that playing without a number nine destroys our fucking game

  • Zinni DUDU

    Are you fucking kidding me? Against fucking Eibar this shit team does not manage to have atleast one shot on target? I swear by god I cannot see this Saul anymore in the lineup. He does everything wrong. He looses balls, he is not winning duells. And Simeone keeps on scapegoating Torres, when plays bad and puts him imiadetly, while Saul has a free ticket to play, whatever he does.

  • Vagabond Messi

    What’s the line up? Same midfield? Did you see how our midfielders were tired and not closing gaps in defense. It’s fine he likes Gabi, Saul and Koke , but will they get mad if he rest them? Simeone doesn’t have too much brain.

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    For two seasons now we have lost our game by game mentality we once had and it’s been replaced by “the Simeone way” and that’s what I think our biggest problem has become. Instead of playing the required football and lineups to match the opponents we have to play, it has come down to playing the players most trusted by the manager.

    I’ve been trying my best not to comment on the team anymore, even when we won 5-0, because I still see the same problems game in, game out and I don’t think anyone close to our coach has the balls to mention these things

  • Douchebag

    Inter Milan wants him.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Exactly, play Saul, Koke and Gabi twice a week and make them run. No use of tactics or something , just play trusted players twice a weak even if 3rd place is sealed and nothing remain to play in la liga. Godin and Savic looks too lazy together but they always play. Against RM most of the players looked tired or didn’t chase the ball in time after 60minute.

  • Vagabond Messi

    He should leave n, he’s devoid of ideas now.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Correa plays well when he plays as striker or second striker but Mr genius throw him in cl semifinal as midfielder. You can play Ronaldo or Messi and even they will struggle to score that much with Midfield trio of Saul , Koke and Gabi who creates almost nothing and due to lack of rotation they were tired as hell and displaying passes and losing ball like it was a exhibition match.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Allthough I hate Real Marid and their stupid fans, I have to admit that Zidane is doing in that case a great Job. He is rotating so many times which allows Modric Kroos or Ronaldo to be 100 % fit. Gabi cannot play twice a week. He is not that young anymore. Simeone does not seem to understand that

  • Douchebag

    I predict a 2-0 win for Real Madrid in the 2nd leg.

    Hala Ronaldo!

  • Zinni DUDU

    Just get your ass of this web-side and keep on watching gay porns, theire you can see your rapist Ronaldo bitch, who is raping woman and trading them with money down so that they keep their mouth shut

  • Douchebag

    You don’t seem to be able to handle sarcastic gestures. You must be gay by the way. 😉

  • Zinni DUDU

    Give me 10 minutes with your sister and I show if I am gay or not

  • Douchebag

    You’re disturbed as fuck. Well, that happens when you lose to Ronaldo twice with a hattrick.

  • Zinni DUDU

    It seems like you are not able to handle sarcastic gestures. Bang bang bitch

  • Ucce

    Should have left after the Milan final. I wanted him gone back then, but I was still happy he stayed during parts of this season. But now I really think it’s time. People think we will regress badly without Simeone, because we are thought of as a smaller club than we are. If this happens, we will eventually be back.

  • Douchebag

    CRISTIANO RONALDO! CRISTIANO RONALDO! CRISTIANO RONALDO!

    HALA RONALDO!

  • Atlético Fans of Belgium

    Simeone should simply leave ! This guy has somehow make Atlético great AGAIN. Atletico is not a small club! When simeone arrives amost all his signings has been trash except Grizi.
    He has no tactics only team spirit. Happy to see him leaving after next season. no contract extention

  • Vagabond Messi

    This, he has wasted so much money on mediocre players and signed players that were not needed. He bought gaitan when we needed a right winger and had Carrasco already on left. Team has perfect pace of Griezmann and Carrasco but Simeone has no idea of counter attack. I would’ve signed Emery , his teams are joy to watch on counters.

  • Atletico

    Sampaoli would even be great, simeone doesn’t have any tactics at all. Look how even Dortmund with players not so experienced can Attact any team and Atleti not

  • Vagabond Messi

    Sampaoli is bit of deluded and unrealist coach. Imo, any coach that has good idea of counter attack , and i mean proper counter attack could’ve won 2cl by now. In 2014 after getting a goal team just sat back and didn’t even try to counter , goal was only a matter of time , 2015 same happend when a goal at Bernabeau could’ve killed the tie but Simeone decided to just defend defend with no idea of counter attack in between. Last year same happend , Once we got equaliser , players mindset was get back and defend .

  • Los Indianos fans 🇧🇪

    I don’t know mate, if teams such as Dortmund has beter players than us. But how they can attack Real, Bayern is awesome to watch. Simeone came to Atlético at the right time when beter players were already in and i will not lie he has tried his best to keep us in the europe elite clubs but mainly with his spirit and luck but he has no tactics at all. I mean he can not replace his players that he received, went for Felipe Louis back, wanted Diego Costa back. Zidane put James on the ,isco on the Bench. Uses Casemeiro no one expected to see that boy start ahead of the known players. But never that Partey will start ahead of Saul. What does Saul does ? Jesus christ i’m sick of this Simeone!

  • Los Indianos fans 🇧🇪

    With Simeone turning to a dictator, i don’t think players will like to come to Atléti. Gaitan and Correa are very offensive but the game Simeone let them play is just not helpful.

  • Los Indianos fans 🇧🇪

    Exactly ! Koke losing balls , crazy corners. Saul does nothing but just to pass the ball to sideways of behind. Saul has No intention of getting the ball foward because of the command of our gneius Simeone.
    Koke is very bad nowadays but Simeone would loose everything but he won’t change koke and Gabi. Whats the sense of playing them always ? Defensive right ? Okay but we are cocedings goals as hell so that is stupid in that case to let them have a fix position everygame. In attact they are not doing shit either !.

  • Los Indianos fans 🇧🇪

    Real talents without tattos and sexy haircuts like Saul and co! We need the Arda,Costa,Falcao,RULO (raul garcia 😢) miss this guys so much

  • AaX

    Tonight is Everything or Nothing !
    This is the Final European Night at The Vicente Calderon, for over 50 glorious years it has been our place of tremendous sadness and Greatest Blissful Joy !

    I ask our Soldiers Tonight to bring about the True real Atleti Fight the likes we have never seen but only caught its glimpse before, the one they will regret reinvoking.
    The Players knew they have to dig deep and to then unleash it all fearlessly and relentlessly, we knew we have to dig deeper and keep on believing irregardlessly.
    We knew we were caught out froze like were not even there the other night. We abandoned our reliable shape, somewhat choked and got anxious to go for the away goals at which they duly exploited and capitalized on the gaps in the midfield.

    But Not Tonight, for even as anticipated will they smartly make their attack, shall they not find nor get an inch the blades of grass at the Vicente Calderon.
    Yes we Shouldn’t remain defensively counter attacking but instead BOMBARD the enemy, Yes we can do it in any way we want with our same players but we Should and MUST Abandon building up the play and just be relentlessly and direct in our approach.
    This should eliminate our main weakness which is building up playing which we never had enough time to emphasize to develop that.
    Keep the ball coming into their box All Night Long and Watch, Lock and Cut Out Any Possible ideas and counter attacking moves the enemy would deploy and can muster.
    Keep being Vigilant and soon we will OverPower them in every aspect.

    Let us Fight Our All On Until Victory is Achieved or until Either the Enemies or Us Collaspe to bring about A Glorious and Honourable Ending for Our Beloved, Majestically Magical and Historical, The Vicente Calderon.

    One thing I know for sure We Will Fight as One or fall as One.

    My Only Hope is that we have the Enough Gas Left to Fight Juventus at Cardiff in The Final !

    CAULDER-It-ON !!!

    FORZA-Aupa ATLETI !!!
    Ganar y Ganar y Ganar

    And GOD Willing We Shall !

  • Vagabond Messi

    I generally disagree with you but i agree on one thing and that is crossing in box but crossing in box will not help if 5 players are on wings and only 1 or 2 players are in box. Madrid are fucking successful from crosses and reason is they’ve only one man crossing from either wing (Carvajal , Marcelo) and 5-6players in box to head or place the ball in goal. Imo Simeone should play 443 with 3 Cm and Carrasco ,Griezmann and Gaitan on wings. 1st leg was a tactical disaster from Simeone, i hope he gets it right with substitution and all.

  • KO ROLLINS

    this could be the weakest fucking squad in the recent years
    -saul?
    -Savic ?
    -gameiro ??????
    – old af Gabi
    – struggling old torres

  • Zinni DUDU

    Going to be funny. Marca is reporting that we are going to start with Gameiro, Torres and Griezmann.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Yes, it’s funny now. After getting 2 goals we sat back again and picking up unnecessary yellows.

  • Vagabond Messi

    What a cheat by referee

  • Madridista

    Tie is over again. 🙂

  • Zinni DUDU

    Coaching misstake. Why did Simeone wanted them to sit back?

  • Madridista

    Cardiff here we go!

  • Vagabond Messi

    This, our mindset is fucking defensive and sit back even opponent invite us to win it. 3rd goal was just inevitable with Madrid panicking. This was also shit defending. Same shit happend in last year final.

  • KO ROLLINS

    hahaha we got a chance to fuck them up the ass but what did we do instead ? we sat back again to defense position

  • Madridista

    Cry Atleti fan.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Lol yeah, even luck said fuck you Simeone. Today Madrid were all slipping and making defensive error but Simeone is too coward to take gift of luck.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Atleast Torres should have punched in Ronaldos ugly face

  • Vagabond Messi

    It’s just me Or Godin is slpw and lazy as fuck these days. He let Benzema run, 3 players just watching and letting him set up goal.

  • Othman

    We canot attack all the time,, the mistake is from Savic how can Benzema do that !!!

  • Vagabond Messi

    Attack all the time? Lol we didn’t even attack when 2 goals came. 2 goals came from pure luck and Madrid shitting.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Even if we sit back then what we do? Defend , defend and defend with no idea of counter attack.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Theres no reason to put with three defenders pressure on him..

  • Vagabond Messi

    Penaldo was crying like a little bitch, i’m sure his Badra Hari makes him moan hard.

  • Zinni DUDU

    You could see if we were ready to press them high and put them under pressure they made misstakes. Well lets the face the fact that this game was decided last week, where we were not able to score a goal. Was the same story with bayern last year. They were great at home but one goal is enough to kill the game

  • Madridista

    Enjoy Isco’s cock. 🙂

  • Vagabond Messi

    You’re right but sometimes you gotta take chances. Our problem is we just relax after scoring a goal rather than securing victory by another. This was evident in last year final and 2014final too.

  • Vagabond Messi

    What a fucking clearance direct to the Madrid player.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Another bad substitution to take out Josema when he was beast.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Thomas has good vision but shit passing.

  • Madridista

    If you want to follow a team that can actually defend watch Juventus.

  • Vagabond Messi

    I don’t take advise from gays.

  • Jason

    Why the fuck even come to this forum? Are you that starved of attention? And of friends?

  • Madridista

    The hapiness is limited.

  • Madridista

    My hands are off the wheel.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Gameiro has to score that fucking goal. He can choose the fucking place in goal

  • Madridista

    Theo Hernandez is leaving. How does that make you feel?

  • Vagabond Messi

    Go die of Cancer.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Gameiro can’t even score tap in

  • Madridista

    You could’ve played with 3-4-2-1. That’s a pressing formation.

  • Vagabond Messi

    This Modric look like a Devil’s minion with his beady eyes and hooked nose.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Madrid crowd looks fat, bald and ugly lol just like their players.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Salute to every Atleti players for giving their all. You’re all true warriors.

  • Vagabond Messi

    Our players are never in place to receive tap in, missed 2 such goals.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Yeah especially the fans were so great

  • KO ROLLINS

    Im proud

  • Vagabond Messi

    We could’ve scored 5 , we created That many chances. We played our hearts out, proud of every warrior. I no longer feel sad.

  • Madridista

    To get knocked out by the same team fourth time in a row?

  • Zinni DUDU

    Atleast we honoerd the Calderon with a win. Lets hope that Cholo learns from his mistakes (he will not), that sitting deep is not always the best solution against team like Real or Barca. One of the reason why never won in the camp nou is, that simeone always wants park the fucking bus. He is worse than mourinho he is atleast using attacking minded players and teaching them to chase backwards.

    Torres should have played the 90 Minutes. He is and reamins the better choice than Gameiro. Did you see how he won the pen? Thats pure experience, what Gameiro will never have. And it is not the first pen he won that way. He won a pen in Milan, against Leganes and today. Still cannot get Cholos choice to bring in Gameiro after 57 minutes. Our game was based on direct balls to Torres and then to press high, what worked till Simeone gave the fucking order to defend a 2:0 lead

  • Roberto

    Football God must be an atleti hater! That what real madrid is doing with atletico, the little brother in town, is just sadism pure!

  • KO ROLLINS

    real got their ass kicked in the final derbi at Calderon fuck yeah that just awesome https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5eba58cff89354a48ff3f860965fa720a2bf05ae6d2a4b1fa2934d6e1f6b23a.gif

  • I’m proud too.

    It’s awesome playing equality to a club with with 3-5 times our budget that shouldn’t even be playing this semifinal.

    It would be awesome a fair game between two deserved semifinalists against Baynern.

  • Dignity is even more limited. But, “you will never understand.”

  • AaX

    As so it seemed,

    If there’s only to be a choice between entering The Champions League Final or Winning The Only Possible and Final Derbi at The Vicente Calderon to erase out the last painful defeat there,….

    It is Obvious for There is No Other Better Choice !

    And since We’ve beaten the hell of ‘rectal’ madrid in Our Final Home Derbi our

    Mandatory and Primary Mission is Accomplished and Secured nor is it Alterable.

    Come Next Season The Estadio Vicente Calderon is almost certainly no more but the possibility of becoming The Champions of Europe or the World can be fairly and certainly expected.

    My Blood is Red
    My Heart is White
    My BrotherHood is Blue
    And
    MY HONOUR IS GOLD.

    To All My True Brothers of Arms

    AUPA ATLETI !!

  • TommyNestor7

    I MUST SAY HOW MUCH I MISS SOME GOOD OLD CONVERSATIONS ALONG WITH *AHMAD, CHEWIE, KOKE… AND SOME OTHERS MORE!!! PLEASE GUYS SAVE THIS WEBSITE WITH SOME GOOD, QUALITY, REASONABLE COMMENTS… THIS NOW IS LOOKING BAD… VERY BAD

  • Vagabond Messi

    Last night reminded story of a man who was drowning and called God to come and save him , then came a man and offered him help but drowning man declined and drowned. Last night summed up Atleti story. Madrid were nevervous as fuck and conceded 2 goals in 15 minutes but Simeone asked them to sit back after17-18 minutes. Atleti just don’t go for killer punch. Last cl same happend, Resorted back to defending after momentum was in favour. Worse is when we sit back we hardly even create anything on counter against big sides so it’s just absorb prrssure till concede.

  • Maura

    I second what you said. When I found this page last year, the threads and conversations were high-quality, reasonable, and an honest appraisal of the team by true Atletico fans. I learned a lot from the people mentioned above. Now it seems like the trolls have taken over.

  • SPAP

    ATLETICO FOR EVERRRRRRRRRRRRR MANY GREEKS ARE CRAZY WITH ATLETICO

  • Vagabond Messi

    Greeks are warriors ,this is why they love atleti.

  • AaX

    Trying to retain some remaining dignity here in their absence.

    If only they would put more substance and due respect in their comments instead being fond of cursing and contrary with one another, disrespecting and turning this site into a second rate youtube channel (as some had pointed it out earlier) it would still remain enjoyably informative.

    However, I’ve would always comment no differently and as mostly to us and those new Atleti fans alike regardless because like many of you I just can’t stop being an Atleti.

    How do I feel ? as those madridista asked.
    Never Better as we are unlike you,
    Always !

  • Los Indianos fans 🇧🇪

    I’m really missing a good conversation here. With *Ahmad Husain, koke and other guys!

  • Zinni DUDU

    This team is just dead. We are feeding Gameiro with long balls. I am sorry to say this, but Simeone is not the righ guy anymore. We have maybe the best team in our history. The bosses bought him every player he wanted: Vrasaljko, Gameiro and Gaitan. And this man is still saying that he did everything what is possible to develop this team. To be honest if you have players like Carrasco, Gaitan, Griezmann and Gameiro and when you still play long balls, it is a sign that the manager has not understood something

  • Karlp

    amazing, a game without any shots. Defend till the last breath.

  • Zinni DUDU

    Do you wanna hear a joke? 40 Mio for Gameiro

  • Joa Andrew

    I understand where you’re coming from, but it’s also bad enough that all our RBs were injured, and even Gimenez filling that position was injured. Torres definitely is influential in cl matches, especially last year but I do hate how Simeone keeps pulling the same tactic and Zidane apparently knows how to beat this Atleti with having 4 CMs in midfield. But anyways, we will always feel inferior to Real no matter what, and Ronaldo doing those stupid pitiful celebrations are not gonna help either. I do think Simeone should leave, but at the same time he can still provide one more meaningful season. Lacazette and Griezmann, along with Kampl and Lemar would be excellent signings imo. Gabi is getting too old unfortunately, and we don’t have a player for RW/RM, or at least one who can make full advantage of it. Essentially though, at least we secured third place in La Liga and semi-finals in UCL and Copa del Rey isn’t bad by any means.

  • Vagabond Messi

    I was against signing Gameiro and that man has nothing to offer except pace( saw him missing sitters for Sevilla ) . But he’s not the root problem , problem is team don’t have a proper counter attacking set up that that helps when team sit deep and absorb pressure. Our midfield trio main job is defense and are all very uncreative and lack imagination. What they do is defend and then kick long ball to our strikers . I truely believe time has come for Simeone to leave and let someone with new ideas to take in charge.

  • Karlp

    I can’t believe people are still blaming Gameiro for his lack of goalscoring. Literally got 0 chance this game. Yes, he misses some easy chances, but which striker doesn’t. I can’t even tell how many chances Suarez or Aguero missed this season. However, it’s more apparent in Gameiro because he literally only got 0-2 chance every game. Gameiro doesn’t create chances? Some of his goals are difficult goals (Valencia, Gijon, etc) and he creates assists. Yes he still lacks a bit of confidence but his biggest downfall is his size which doesn’t suit our current game.

    I don’t totally blame Simeone. I understand the lack of creativity from the current midfield is bound to happen when the team need players that can keep cleansheets. I also understand that he lacks the capability to create a team with a good attacking buildup play. However, for all he has brought to Atleti and remembering next year is his last year in his contract, the least the fans can do is to moan less.

    Next year, I think our strikers (whichever it will be) will scores more than this year. And mostly due to some of the players will matures and adapts more to the team (Saul, Carrasco, Correa, Gaitan). Bottom line is, yes there are some strikers that probably will succeed more in the current season than Gameiro (Morata, Auba, etc). But, to repeatedly blaming Gameiro for the lack of goals is just a lazy excuse.

  • AnonX

    I am with a humble opinion that Vardy would solve our main attacking problem which is a clinical counter-attacking Striker/Finisher.

    He has desire, pace, strength, tactical assimilation, goalscoring record and loyalty.

    Picking a hole to blast past 10 men Atleti wall into the net is not an average feat and the goals he has so far scored fits Atleti’s style perfectly.

  • KO ROLLINS

    Lacazette lol Just when you think it can’t get any worse