The Time Is Now: Atlético out for revenge against Real

agreed..

i wanted us to get them in the semis. i think we can beat them over 2 legs but i think we need to attack in the first leg, hard and not just absorb and counter…

but your way works too

No talk of revenge please, we’ve been talking of revenge since last 3 season and it didn’t happen. Just take it as i very important cl match againdt a big side.

Good luck with that.

Thats my concern aswell. A mix between pressing them high and dropping deep would be the best solution. I think you cannot deny a great attacking team like Real 90 Minutes going forward, because it will take alot of energy to press them high. But the players should be matured enough to realize, when Real looks tired and then we have to press them high and put them under pressure. I think that Real Madrids physical ablitiy is not so high as ours. We are used to chase every fucking ball. Espically Modric and Kroos look always after the hour-mark really tired. While our players -especially Koke, Saul, Griezmann, Filipe and Carrasco – have a great fucking engine. They can run 90 Minutes without getting tired. I really see us pressing them high after the hour mark when they are tired. Maybe with the fresh legs of Torres and Correa aswell. That was for me the saddest thing in Milan. We were the physical stronger side while Real looked death tired and we were still not able to kill the game. This has to change this time by using our stronger engine to kill the game.

Carlo please make a new thread and don’t talk about revenge in that pre match thread .

Vagabond, the piece above is an opinion piece. I want revenge.

Perhaps another writer will do a match preview.

100 agree with that.

Atleti always beat us when they super pressed and counter in la liga but in Europe they seem to lack the same conviction or confidence infront of goal. I think Real got a nice boost by playing the 2nd leg at Calderón because 1-1 or 2-1 at Bernabeu are attainable and Real should be able to score at the Calderón too specially if the team is under pressure. Atleti has to go for 2 goals at least if they mean business, pretty sure 1 away goal will do nothing for their cause. This year everyone has played much less games thanks to ZZ’s rotations so I woun’t count on the team getting tired, you better be ready to run for 90mins. May the best team win! Can’t wait.

I just hope you handle the defeat if it comes . revenge talk and all made defeat even more bitter.

I can understand your point that we should not seek for revenge, but if you look to fotos like these wants, revenge is the only thing I want to happen

Atleti, please think about and focus on the great games You played against real madrid in la liga and copa del rey in the last 4 years! Think about winning even against super barca twice in the champions…… It is just a question of time, when we kick the merengues out of the champions league! And tonight and in a week in calderon it can allready happen, this si exciting! Real Madrid knows that Atleti will not stay anymore very long the little brother in town 😉

Yeah you are right. Was the same thing last year against Barcelona, where Torres made two fouls and he got sent off. Iniesta denied in the return match a clearing chance and he got a yellow card. Well Well Well

Carvajal almost produced a goal. Again a set piece, we seem to be playing right in their hands.

Now i want Atleti to play all out game. We need away goal.

Not having right back is also allowing them to find hole. Griezmann and Filipe looked gassed thanks to no rotation. We’ll lose big if we keep sitting deep, their corners and headerd are too accurate. We needed a player who could keep posession a bit.

Chip the fucking ball. Is that so hard if the fucking keeper comes out?

Why on earth our players get crowded at right side while taking ball out? Use space.

Second half Torres should be fresh and surely he’s a better finisher but he lost pace.

I am waiting for half time. Simeone needs to kick their asses in half time. A 2:0 would be really bad.

For God sake Koke ñeeds to stop taking corners.

Cunt Ramos elbowed and not getting any card.

Yes he was very bad, but that chance came just because of his pace. Unfortunately he has nothing else to offer. I’ve been against this signing, not because of his height but his finishing.

I still do not get how Griezmann can laugh when the score is 0:1? I really miss the toughness and ambition of players like Garcia or Costa

Maybe our worst game in terms of attacking. I do not see any tactics or ideas going forward. We need an away goal

Wtf i just saw 7 players on the righht trying to make a cross and noone in box , hilarious.

Fucking 3 defenders can’t clear a ball.

Tie is over

Playing with only two CM killed the game and made us open to counter attacks.

so so many nightmares (literally) ahead

they buried us completely

The tie is over guys!! It’s been a good run. Unlike the atleti teams of previous seasons there’s no fight in them. Atleti also seem to have difficulty attacking its almost like they practice on their defense through out training. This loss really hurts , I won’t say I’m surprised though

That must be the easiest cleansheet for Keylor Navas for 4 Months now

I really wish it would be today only about shit strikers today. Saul doing his usual stuff by not closing the gaps. Koke created only one chances for Gameiro and was not able to do anything. Godin with shit positioning. Lucas played out of position. Carrasco did nothing. Everyone beside Oblak was shit.

Horrible! Oblak was the only performer today! But Oblaks bad performance in the penalty soot outs in milan final is the reason, why we still have to suffer, and will maybe suffer another 50 years! Griezmann is allready with his head in manchester. Simeone has not anymore this motivation power he had snd he has no tactical ideas anymore! It is really time, that he leaves, to protect this, what he has established, if he stays he is giing ti demolish it himselves…. and spanish officials and functioneers were (2014 and 2016!!!) and are toooo stupid to intervent politically (referees…) to get a 3rd big champion, which would be a boost for the spanish league in the fight against premier league for worldwide market shares.

Im gonna break my silence and for the sake of PERSONAL Sanity am gonna have a go !!

First and foremost Atleti were NON EXISTANT !!

How and Why ???

There are players who are born to play in big occasion and there are players who isn’t.

As I’ve said before Savic seemed to be isn’t one of them. The occasion may have got above him and we saw that early Savic who let in Christina scored the 3-0 win earlier at the Calderon.
He has occasional concentration lapse bug and Not my primary choice if fighting against rectal madrid.

And then to make matters worst our Cholo became somewhat desperate to get the equalizer uncharacteristically. The occasion also got to him because he decided to abandon the tactical defensive shell and tried to play Koke and Gabi in central midfield after having not done so in any consequential success for Eons.

Some of you here might just be commentators and some of you here might actually be a sportsman and as sportsmen, If you are Good at something You STICK to it ! ESPECIALLY when you are competing at the HIGHEST Level !!

So when Simeone decided to withdrew Saul and not replacing him with either Thomas or Tiago, that’s when our team became apparently fragile and vulnerable .Why ?? Some of you would think that’s the obvious choice to go for attacking setups for the away goals but have you not ever notice that Atleti never knew how to attack or build up effective attacking movements nor play in possession since 2 years back. Period they have been abandoning this system since the start of the season and now relying back to this at the final stages ?? real just then exploited those big opened spaces and it tolled with the next two goals coming in as we were ripped apart. Those comical errors were very much preventable by having more mids there to shield off the defenders from incoming through ball passes, attackers and bundling balls as we already knew they were good at.
Savic’s erroneous block led to the 2nd goal chaos and there were no actual players there covering the incoming strike of the 3rd. This scenarios were unthinkable of the team but what you thought couldn’t happen happened when ‘we’ succumbed to nonsensical doubts and pressures generated more in our own minds than the real life match statistics and facts and choked.

I think this first leg was a tactical catastrophe
but we Must Immediately Recover !!!
.
Simeone should NOT be so desperate and should just hang on even if it means trailing the first leg with 1 goal with or without any away goals.
We cannot play like ‘barce4lona’ now simply because we have declined the opportunity to develop attacking and/or possession play from the beginning of the season because for 2 attacking moves from a team like ‘barca’, it took 4 moves from Atleti to achieve the same effect which is such a sad decline but that is All Okay if you have already fixed your style and philosophy of play and remain. You can call it our attacking inefficiency rather than deficiency. and I know that’s what sometime is excruciatingly frustrating but you can really be strong being indecisive, You got to choose one and grow Great and Strong.

What we have developed over the course of the season is a very solid and stable 3 def mids man with 3 quick and sharp attackers and have paid dividends since.
I just can’t believe Simeone was somewhat affected enough because apart from that early erroneous headed goal we knew real was already manageable. I sincerely do not sense any more conceded goals.
But there are justifiable causefor concern too because Our fighting bite and intensity were not evident and missing than usual. I just saw players more jogging around and didn’t come in with strong, fast and often enough challenges apart from Griezmann and didn’t look to want to win the ball hard enough as before ?? It beckons me to question,
Were they that nervous ?? After drawing and almost winning here the last outing this position was quite baffling and have to go ??!!
Really this is old.

What do I think it should be.

Simeone should not have changed formation at all especially at opponent’s place.
And if it were me I would have started with Gaitan over Carrasco simply because he wasn’t fit and playing the last match and bring him in when and as needed. If Saul played badly then you should bring Thomas in to replace him. Instead Where was Thomas ?!! He was highly motivated and morale was high for playing well the previous match, but wasn’t he even considered ? Correa would be great to sub in but I am sorry I can’t see Torres posing any threat lately although I hope I’m wrong in the upcoming 2nd leg later.
Those were uncharacteristic contradictions in Simeone’s choice last night but it’s for Him NOW to make it up.
Of course were were looking for away goals but to abandon our tactical defensive shape thinking we can string those needed effective passes like other attacking teams succesfully did here now was suicidal.

After all the Pressure is OFF,
The next game it is COMPULSORY for me to have Gimenez play, And hopefully somehow Juanfran recovers too in time.
Stick to our usual stable and solid formation and as the game requires we can then switch to more attacking setups as needed MAINLY because this is CAULDER-it-ON and probably no other options left in Play. But that must got done so expertly, accurately and astutely.
An above all, RUN and FIGHT for Us either Until Victory is Achieved or an Honourable Fighting Pride end but end with the Former for the Final Time at Our Majestically Magical and Historically Honourable Estadia Vicente Calderon.

All in all was said I think we still have One FINAL Chance at The Vicente Calderon and if there’s only one team that is left ABLE to do it, ………

It is None Other but ATLETICO de MADRID.

FORZA Atleti !!
Ganar y Ganar y Ganar !!!

And We Shall GOD Willing.

and i am hearing news here and there that they want to sign fucking Lacazette that nobody asked for ,they will never fucking learn from their mistakes

Valencia coach atleast know how to counter attack and do things with ball unlike Simeone. Who starts every match with purpose of defending .

Awfull performance against RM. I just hope we give them a run for their money in the next game. Although the chances are slim I still have faith. With two quick goals it will be an intense affair.

We definitely need some top class reinforcements this summer, and if the ban is not lifted it would be a major blow. I have been very disappointed with Correa and Gaitan this season. I really hope we buy a top class RW this summer (don’t know who though). With Augusto coming back I think we are set in the CM. we need backup on the LB if Theo doesn’t come back. I am not sure on what to do in attack. If Griezmann stays I actually think we should buy a young striker to take the backup role (as a Dane I have to say Dolberg from AJax). If Griezmann or Gameiro leaves we need to bring in a top striker (Costa is always an issue). I don’t know about Lacazette…

https://youtu.be/mxYwRY4RbtY
Hoping for a game like this in the 2nd leg
Although it’s highly unlikely
Aupa Atleti!
I think we had a pretty good season, semi finals in both ucl and CDR( we were robbed vs Barca but that’s life I guess) and we’ve got third place on the lock down. No trophies but a decent season

what i can’t understand is the fact that Thomas is not playing why …. how is that even fucking possible the guy is a beast he can defend he can attack he can do every fucking thing but no we should play with saul for no fucking reason fuck this bullshit

Are you fucking kidding me? Against fucking Eibar this shit team does not manage to have atleast one shot on target? I swear by god I cannot see this Saul anymore in the lineup. He does everything wrong. He looses balls, he is not winning duells. And Simeone keeps on scapegoating Torres, when plays bad and puts him imiadetly, while Saul has a free ticket to play, whatever he does.

For two seasons now we have lost our game by game mentality we once had and it’s been replaced by “the Simeone way” and that’s what I think our biggest problem has become. Instead of playing the required football and lineups to match the opponents we have to play, it has come down to playing the players most trusted by the manager.

I’ve been trying my best not to comment on the team anymore, even when we won 5-0, because I still see the same problems game in, game out and I don’t think anyone close to our coach has the balls to mention these things

Exactly, play Saul, Koke and Gabi twice a week and make them run. No use of tactics or something , just play trusted players twice a weak even if 3rd place is sealed and nothing remain to play in la liga. Godin and Savic looks too lazy together but they always play. Against RM most of the players looked tired or didn’t chase the ball in time after 60minute.

Correa plays well when he plays as striker or second striker but Mr genius throw him in cl semifinal as midfielder. You can play Ronaldo or Messi and even they will struggle to score that much with Midfield trio of Saul , Koke and Gabi who creates almost nothing and due to lack of rotation they were tired as hell and displaying passes and losing ball like it was a exhibition match.

I predict a 2-0 win for Real Madrid in the 2nd leg.

Hala Ronaldo!

You don’t seem to be able to handle sarcastic gestures. You must be gay by the way. 😉

You’re disturbed as fuck. Well, that happens when you lose to Ronaldo twice with a hattrick.

Should have left after the Milan final. I wanted him gone back then, but I was still happy he stayed during parts of this season. But now I really think it’s time. People think we will regress badly without Simeone, because we are thought of as a smaller club than we are. If this happens, we will eventually be back.

Simeone should simply leave ! This guy has somehow make Atlético great AGAIN. Atletico is not a small club! When simeone arrives amost all his signings has been trash except Grizi.
He has no tactics only team spirit. Happy to see him leaving after next season. no contract extention

Sampaoli would even be great, simeone doesn’t have any tactics at all. Look how even Dortmund with players not so experienced can Attact any team and Atleti not

I don’t know mate, if teams such as Dortmund has beter players than us. But how they can attack Real, Bayern is awesome to watch. Simeone came to Atlético at the right time when beter players were already in and i will not lie he has tried his best to keep us in the europe elite clubs but mainly with his spirit and luck but he has no tactics at all. I mean he can not replace his players that he received, went for Felipe Louis back, wanted Diego Costa back. Zidane put James on the ,isco on the Bench. Uses Casemeiro no one expected to see that boy start ahead of the known players. But never that Partey will start ahead of Saul. What does Saul does ? Jesus christ i’m sick of this Simeone!

Exactly ! Koke losing balls , crazy corners. Saul does nothing but just to pass the ball to sideways of behind. Saul has No intention of getting the ball foward because of the command of our gneius Simeone.
Koke is very bad nowadays but Simeone would loose everything but he won’t change koke and Gabi. Whats the sense of playing them always ? Defensive right ? Okay but we are cocedings goals as hell so that is stupid in that case to let them have a fix position everygame. In attact they are not doing shit either !.

Tonight is Everything or Nothing !
This is the Final European Night at The Vicente Calderon, for over 50 glorious years it has been our place of tremendous sadness and Greatest Blissful Joy !

I ask our Soldiers Tonight to bring about the True real Atleti Fight the likes we have never seen but only caught its glimpse before, the one they will regret reinvoking.
The Players knew they have to dig deep and to then unleash it all fearlessly and relentlessly, we knew we have to dig deeper and keep on believing irregardlessly.
We knew we were caught out froze like were not even there the other night. We abandoned our reliable shape, somewhat choked and got anxious to go for the away goals at which they duly exploited and capitalized on the gaps in the midfield.

But Not Tonight, for even as anticipated will they smartly make their attack, shall they not find nor get an inch the blades of grass at the Vicente Calderon.
Yes we Shouldn’t remain defensively counter attacking but instead BOMBARD the enemy, Yes we can do it in any way we want with our same players but we Should and MUST Abandon building up the play and just be relentlessly and direct in our approach.
This should eliminate our main weakness which is building up playing which we never had enough time to emphasize to develop that.
Keep the ball coming into their box All Night Long and Watch, Lock and Cut Out Any Possible ideas and counter attacking moves the enemy would deploy and can muster.
Keep being Vigilant and soon we will OverPower them in every aspect.

Let us Fight Our All On Until Victory is Achieved or until Either the Enemies or Us Collaspe to bring about A Glorious and Honourable Ending for Our Beloved, Majestically Magical and Historical, The Vicente Calderon.

One thing I know for sure We Will Fight as One or fall as One.

My Only Hope is that we have the Enough Gas Left to Fight Juventus at Cardiff in The Final !

CAULDER-It-ON !!!

FORZA-Aupa ATLETI !!!
Ganar y Ganar y Ganar

And GOD Willing We Shall !

this could be the weakest fucking squad in the recent years
-saul?
-Savic ?
-gameiro ??????
– old af Gabi
– struggling old torres

Yes, it’s funny now. After getting 2 goals we sat back again and picking up unnecessary yellows.

Tie is over again. 🙂

Cardiff here we go!

hahaha we got a chance to fuck them up the ass but what did we do instead ? we sat back again to defense position

Lol yeah, even luck said fuck you Simeone. Today Madrid were all slipping and making defensive error but Simeone is too coward to take gift of luck.

It’s just me Or Godin is slpw and lazy as fuck these days. He let Benzema run, 3 players just watching and letting him set up goal.

Attack all the time? Lol we didn’t even attack when 2 goals came. 2 goals came from pure luck and Madrid shitting.

Theres no reason to put with three defenders pressure on him..

You could see if we were ready to press them high and put them under pressure they made misstakes. Well lets the face the fact that this game was decided last week, where we were not able to score a goal. Was the same story with bayern last year. They were great at home but one goal is enough to kill the game

You’re right but sometimes you gotta take chances. Our problem is we just relax after scoring a goal rather than securing victory by another. This was evident in last year final and 2014final too.

Another bad substitution to take out Josema when he was beast.

If you want to follow a team that can actually defend watch Juventus.

Why the fuck even come to this forum? Are you that starved of attention? And of friends?

My hands are off the wheel.

Theo Hernandez is leaving. How does that make you feel?

Gameiro can’t even score tap in

This Modric look like a Devil’s minion with his beady eyes and hooked nose.

Salute to every Atleti players for giving their all. You’re all true warriors.

Yeah especially the fans were so great

We could’ve scored 5 , we created That many chances. We played our hearts out, proud of every warrior. I no longer feel sad.

Atleast we honoerd the Calderon with a win. Lets hope that Cholo learns from his mistakes (he will not), that sitting deep is not always the best solution against team like Real or Barca. One of the reason why never won in the camp nou is, that simeone always wants park the fucking bus. He is worse than mourinho he is atleast using attacking minded players and teaching them to chase backwards.

Torres should have played the 90 Minutes. He is and reamins the better choice than Gameiro. Did you see how he won the pen? Thats pure experience, what Gameiro will never have. And it is not the first pen he won that way. He won a pen in Milan, against Leganes and today. Still cannot get Cholos choice to bring in Gameiro after 57 minutes. Our game was based on direct balls to Torres and then to press high, what worked till Simeone gave the fucking order to defend a 2:0 lead

real got their ass kicked in the final derbi at Calderon fuck yeah that just awesome https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5eba58cff89354a48ff3f860965fa720a2bf05ae6d2a4b1fa2934d6e1f6b23a.gif

Dignity is even more limited. But, “you will never understand.”

I MUST SAY HOW MUCH I MISS SOME GOOD OLD CONVERSATIONS ALONG WITH *AHMAD, CHEWIE, KOKE… AND SOME OTHERS MORE!!! PLEASE GUYS SAVE THIS WEBSITE WITH SOME GOOD, QUALITY, REASONABLE COMMENTS… THIS NOW IS LOOKING BAD… VERY BAD

I second what you said. When I found this page last year, the threads and conversations were high-quality, reasonable, and an honest appraisal of the team by true Atletico fans. I learned a lot from the people mentioned above. Now it seems like the trolls have taken over.

Greeks are warriors ,this is why they love atleti.

I’m really missing a good conversation here. With *Ahmad Husain, koke and other guys!

amazing, a game without any shots. Defend till the last breath.

I understand where you’re coming from, but it’s also bad enough that all our RBs were injured, and even Gimenez filling that position was injured. Torres definitely is influential in cl matches, especially last year but I do hate how Simeone keeps pulling the same tactic and Zidane apparently knows how to beat this Atleti with having 4 CMs in midfield. But anyways, we will always feel inferior to Real no matter what, and Ronaldo doing those stupid pitiful celebrations are not gonna help either. I do think Simeone should leave, but at the same time he can still provide one more meaningful season. Lacazette and Griezmann, along with Kampl and Lemar would be excellent signings imo. Gabi is getting too old unfortunately, and we don’t have a player for RW/RM, or at least one who can make full advantage of it. Essentially though, at least we secured third place in La Liga and semi-finals in UCL and Copa del Rey isn’t bad by any means.

I can’t believe people are still blaming Gameiro for his lack of goalscoring. Literally got 0 chance this game. Yes, he misses some easy chances, but which striker doesn’t. I can’t even tell how many chances Suarez or Aguero missed this season. However, it’s more apparent in Gameiro because he literally only got 0-2 chance every game. Gameiro doesn’t create chances? Some of his goals are difficult goals (Valencia, Gijon, etc) and he creates assists. Yes he still lacks a bit of confidence but his biggest downfall is his size which doesn’t suit our current game.

I don’t totally blame Simeone. I understand the lack of creativity from the current midfield is bound to happen when the team need players that can keep cleansheets. I also understand that he lacks the capability to create a team with a good attacking buildup play. However, for all he has brought to Atleti and remembering next year is his last year in his contract, the least the fans can do is to moan less.

Next year, I think our strikers (whichever it will be) will scores more than this year. And mostly due to some of the players will matures and adapts more to the team (Saul, Carrasco, Correa, Gaitan). Bottom line is, yes there are some strikers that probably will succeed more in the current season than Gameiro (Morata, Auba, etc). But, to repeatedly blaming Gameiro for the lack of goals is just a lazy excuse.

Lacazette lol Just when you think it can’t get any worse