Matchday LIVE: Atlético vs. Valencia

In-form Valencia make their way to Madrid for huge clash

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It’s a massive night at the Vicente Calderón as Atlético take on fourth-place Valencia in a true test of nerve.

After Real Madrid lost to Athletic, Barcelona moved top of the table as they beat Rayo 6-1. However if you believe Cholo, it’s tonight’s opponents that are our biggest concern in the league.

Use the comments to post your thoughts, reactions and (hopefully) celebrations. We’ll be posting updates via Twitter, and you can follow the action right here.

You can prepare for the match by reading our Match Preview.

Starting XIs

Atlético: Moyá; Juanfran, Godín, Giménez, Siqueira; Gabi, Tiago, Koke, Arda; Raúl García, Torres

Valencia: Alves, Barragan, Mustafi, Otamendi, Gaya, Javi Fuego, Enzo, Parejo, Feghouli, Piatti, Negredo.


 



  • Mandzukic on the bench, even with Griezmann suspended!

  • Kris

    Torres is still good. Love this guy.

  • Kris

    GOooool!! Crackerr by KOKEEEE!!

  • KOKEE!!

  • Abdil Egriøz

    Not a beautiful match but it’s the points that matter at this point, let’s win this match!

  • Kris

    WTF Tiago? Damn. Have me sweating out my armpits..

  • Kris

    Out for the next match,, Mandzukic..

  • Kris

    Good thing Torres looks very much in form and we have Griezmann available for the next match.

  • Kris

    What a dumbass, Moya….

  • Gutted!

  • TaiMaiShu

    Dammit Moya

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    Well Moya proves me right

  • Kris

    Me too…. 🙁

  • Kris

    Fuck this shit! I am pissed!

  • Jeronamo Pakor Jones

    I stopped watching. Three weeks and the same bullshit

  • TaiMaiShu

    Its just so fucking frustrating to see such an obvious victory grabbed out of our hands.

  • Max Huber

    You are right! But Atletico has to work on his chance-creating from the midfield!!! They play so many long balls, but the passing play is very bad I think!! So it´s really hard for the strikers to score! They really need more creativity – maybe Cholo should give Cani more chances!

  • Abdil Egriøz

    Come on guys I am also very pissed but you cant blame moya in that situation. Of course he isn’t on courtouis’s level but he is still decent. What bothers me more is that we didn’t score the second goal to secure the 3 points. We are having a bad couple of weeks at the moment and it seems now that even the 3rd spot is in jeopardy. But we still need to stand behind our team and support them when we face Leverkusen. Which is a match we really need to win and pass through through to the next round!

  • atleti10

    Fuuuuccckkkkkkk

  • Mrtn

    Arda will retire from our starting XI no matter how bad he plays he just keeps on playing.
    An attacking player with this little impact on the attack… It’s amazing that he just can’t score or provide an assist or at least some fckin key passes.
    Cholo surely has some personal problems with Mandzukic, which is really really sad.
    Gimenez is better than Miranda, he should stay in the starting line up, but I bet he won’t.
    We could field Mandzukic and Torres with Griezman but instead we keep watching Arda’s elegant style game after game.
    Losing these 2 points is a real failure.

  • Chewie

    It’s not about Moya whose only bad decision was to rush to the ball once in the second half. The goal came from nowhere and was a sheer bad luck. True, a taller keeper like Courtois could’ve saved it but that’s not the point.

    For the draw I blame Simeone. Playing for a one-goal lead against Valencia is stupid. We had to score more. And the fact that we owned these bastards for 80 minutes only makes things worse.

    I’m inclined to start understanding Cholo’s words about aiming for the third place literally. A team that wants to be up top doesn’t settle after scoring just one goal against a team full of classy players.

  • Max Huber

    I often thought the same – and it´s the same thing with Siquera on the left – they are not able to give an assist!!

  • AaX

    NEVER CHANGE a Winning Team. And spoil the chemistry. If it were me I WOULD’NT CHANGE Torres and Koke. What a down way of ending the match that you have comprehensively contain their attacking sparks. Still wondering what Moya was thinking ???

  • I’m one of Moya’s biggest fans and I definitely blame him for that goal
    We don’t need Courtois to save that ball, Asenjo could have saved it, Oblak too

    But the draw is not Moya’s fault though, it’s all on Simeone

  • Abdil Egriøz

    I am a very big Arda fan but Atleti always come before. Without being to biased I got to defend Arda here. Cholo knows very well that Arda isn’t a game changer and atleti fans also knows that. But arda is the most vital player on the whole team when it comes to keeping possesion, we’ve seen that in most of the matches when arda wasn’t playing. Knowing that Cholo uses arda in the build up play and to create space not to score or make assists.

  • Max Huber

    He is very lively, that´s right, but maybe he isn´t a real 10, you know! At his position He HAS TO CREATE CHANCES!!

  • atleti10

    RG8 running around giving away fucking free kick after free kick. We NEED a quality box to box midfielder. Someone who can run with ball and add some energy to the team.

  • Abdil Egriøz

    Cholo also did that last season, he always stayed humble and said in press conferences that our aim was the 3rd place and things could actually have been as he had said if it wasn’t for hard work and luck. Though he shows during the matches how badly he wants to win so I dont doubt his commitment there but even though the fans are frustrated I think Simeone is the one who is most frustrated. That is a thing we should keep in mind.

  • Chewie

    Have to agree about Arda – I think he doesn’t suit counter-attacking play at all. He likes to take his time with the ball which means losing pace. And as much as he’s enjoyable to look at, his statistics is appalling – 1 assist in last 17 games. Maybe he’s not there for the assists and goals (though I personally don’t get why the f*ck else do you need an attacking mid) but with our (lately) horrible passing play he seems a weak link to me. I’d prefer someone more straightforward in his place.

    Miranda who? Gimenez is badass.

  • Carpetano

    Mandzukic was horrible today. Simeone should rather choose Torres or even Jiménez oven the Croation international in the next games and here’s why:

    * Slow as fuck
    * Can’t win a single aerial duel
    * Complaining.
    * Receive unnecessary cards.

  • Abdil Egriøz

    He does create chances and he does make passes but it’s the players around him that is expected to finish the build ups and score the goals. I understand your frustration, I’ve went through hundred of discussions about arda’s perfomance for the national team. But that’s just how arda plays and we have to respect that, I know we could get much more cynical players in that position but I dont think people realize how importnant arda is. But yeah he has never been a 10 in that fashion if you mean scoring goals and making assists all the time.

  • AaX

    How ever much FRUSTRATED we can be We still have to CONTAIN IT TO MAKE AMMENDS. I surely hope Cholo is Mad and Frustrated more than we are for those wrong decisions made.

  • Max Huber

    Well I know how important he is, because he really can fight for the ball adn keep posession – and I guess he is the one who runs his ass off all the time but maybe it would be a good thing to change his position – on this position you need someone like Hazard, or Robben to support Griezmann and Torres or Mandzukic and make the attacking game faster! Maybe he is one for the center midfield, but then Altetico has to play more offensive!!

  • Abdil Egriøz

    I’ve made my comment about Arda and I think it’s sad that more of you think arda is the weak link. Arda has never been about scoring or assisting but about keeping possesion and creating space. If you remember how good Arda and Filipe Luiz linked up you would know how importnant arda is. But there is of course players like Brahimi, Bellarabi and so on that is more suited for the counter attacking..

  • Gimenez is already one of the team leaders while he is still 20, but he will be benched vs Espanyol, and Miranda will play and could make another mistake and cost us the game
    This is Simeone

    I also liked the other Jimenez, who really deserves much more chances, but he didn’t play against Getafe, Almeria or Cordoba then he is asked to win us the game vs Valencia .. in 9 minutes
    This is Simeone

  • Abdil Egriøz

    I agree that players like Hazard and robben is much more cynical and would have better stats though we would have to buy players a bit more cheaper. The thing is that if everyone around arda is players that scores and assists often like Griezmann, Koke, Torres etc then I think Arda would be just fine but when we miss players like Griezmann today arda doesn’t come up as a player to make the difference. I agree with why Cholo uses Arda as he does but if have to keep being top 5 teams in the world then of course we need players like Reus in arda’s position!

  • Carpetano

    With all respect but are you for real? He’s important for Atléticos offensive game with following reasons:

    * His creativity with the ball
    * The ability to distributed the ball connection with his team mates aren’t bad at tall.
    * Can dribble + create chances for his teammates.

  • Carpetano

    Iniesta doesn’t has great stats but does that mean he’s utter shit? Probably no and the same could be said for Arda.

  • atleti10

    Cani is shit. We need Koke back fit plain and simple. Hes the only creative player in the squad. Ardas neat but not creative. Griezmanns attacking but not creative. At least next season theres Oli and Correa.

  • Mrtn

    I don’t think that keeping possession the way Arda does is useful.
    Actually that was my point: he just keeps possession, he’s playing a nice skillful game and doesn’t care about scoring a goal any way.
    Now the problem is that we got Koke, who is way more creative than Arda, provides assists and key passes while defends much better than Arda. And runs a fckin lot.
    We could field anybody in the central midfield instead of Arda and free up Koke a bit (this way he could contribute even more to the attacks), or play with our 2 strong central forwards and Griezmann behind them… this could be deadly I think but will not happen as long as Arda’s still around.
    Back in the days when we finally signed Arda after 2 summers of rumours and negotioations I was the happiest Atletico as I followed him since he was 18-19 (he was one of my favourites in football manager as a youngster…). The problem is that he couldn’t live up to my (and many others) expectation and his full potential.

  • pahas

    I think arda must play in a CM position rather than at the wing

  • Mrtn

    22 games 2 goals 4 assists this year
    last year: 30 games 3 goals 4 assists
    these numbers are way too low for the creative / attacking midfielder of the spanish champions (or a contenders)
    he just doen’t have an eye on goal…

  • Totally agree with you, I can’t imagine this Atleti without Arda for the reasons you have mentioned
    Arda is not the problem, I even can’t believe that I just had to say that !
    The problem is that we can only afford to have one Arda, he is very important, but his goals and assists are few, so we can not start with him and Raul Garcia and Torres who also have poor numbers, especially that Koke’s goals and assists are also very few this season, that was just his 2nd goal in La Liga

    O.K, Grizi was suspended tonight, but what about Cani & Jimenez ?!
    Cholo doesn’t trust them ?! .. well, guess what, the people he trusts didn’t win him the game either !

    Arda is not the problem, as a matter of fact, no player is the problem,
    Simeone is the real problem, or let me phrase it in a better way :
    Simeone has some real problems

  • right, but last season it was obvious that he was just being humble and keeping a low profile, but his actions were different

    against the same opponent, Valencia, when we scored the 3rd goal he shouted at his players : “uno mas” [one more] to be the sole leaders after tying with Barca in pts & goal av. (although that one more goal would have made us sole leaders only temporarily, because what matters is the head-to-head results)

    But tonight, he was very happy with the 1-0 which wasn’t enough to secure the win and more importantly, wasn’t enough to win the head-to-head against Valencia, something that we could need at the end of the season

    So, after having my doubts for a long time, I’m now -like Chewie- very convinced that he LITERALLY meant it when he said he wants the 3rd or the 4th place, and this is just unacceptable

  • Carpetano

    Then I’m curious to hear what you have to say about Iniesta? I mean, he dosn’t have great stats but he’s still seen as of the greatest players of all time…

    Football isn’t about stats but how well you perform on the pitch and

  • Mithas

    also he looks like a supervillain, hes giving me some serious dr doofenschmirtzs vibes smh. lets face it, he is ineffective without griezi