A fan in turmoil

One fervent supporter is haunted by Atlético’s vicious cycle, which strikes again

(Colchonero.com)

(Colchonero.com)

I love Atleti. There’s no question about it.

But does Atleti love me?

No.

Atlético Madrid is my abuser, my tormenter, my baby.

In a hazy daze of red and white, I wonder, do the club’s colours symbolise: red, for the incessant bloodletting of its rich history?

Or white, for the white flag of surrender beckoning for supporters to pick up and wave to end the suffering?

The club’s current state of affairs is a mishmash of mediocrity: incompetent, corrupt owners; a series of inept sporting directors hijacked by money-hungry agents; a deranged manager described by a member of the directive council as a “walking corpse”; on-loan players and suspected mercenaries; a staggering, crippling debt; no plan or direction whatsoever while stranded in treacherous waters in the league standings; and us, the wounded faithful.

A tumultuous winter looms in which yet another coach will be axed. His replacement will arrive offering promises that in the end, like others before, will be broken. Players will no doubt be sent packing for a fraction of what they cost, while others will be brought in at laughably inflated prices.

And there isn’t a damned thing we can do to stop it. All we can do is sit back and brace for the inevitable implosion.

While we can live in denial, convincing ourselves that we will pull through the rut, harking back to two seasons ago when we miraculously lifted two continental trophies in a matter of months, the fact of the matter is, there is no future until the club is released from the bonds of its criminal captors.

Until then, we will continue to be a running gag, the joke of La Liga.

Surely, most of us will choose red over white, and our weekly bloodshed will continue.

Let’s just hope we still have a pulse when the two above don’t.


  • ratchet

    Perfectly said

  • Hey I think with a good coach you can do very well, but if it doesn’t work out you can always transfer and support Valencia CF !

  • Javi Lozoya

    I said it before and I’ll say it, the person responsible for Atleti’s downfall is Miguel Ángel Gil Marín, he is”abusing”, “tormenting”, and stomping on Club Atletico de Madrid, and unless he gets out of the club we’re gonna see this vicious circle, and it’s always gonna be the same history each year, Atleti is NEVER gonna progress again and be the same great it was before until Gil is out of the club.

  • Javi Lozoya

    Gil Cabron fuera del Calderon!

  • DavidSF

    Just a friendly thought. Has anyone tried to make “Gil Marin dissappear” lol?

  • Javi Lozoya

    DavidSF, I’m sure some of us fans have, also, at Colchonero.com there’s some people who want to “dissappear him.

  • Javi

    The only way Gil and Cerezo will get out is if they are bought out.
    We should start an initiative amongst the atleti fans worldwide so that together we can make them an offer and buy them out.
    We keep crying about the situation but we dont do anything. If I’m Gil or Cerezo, why am I going to leave something that makes me money and in which I have invested millions? All I have to do is keep lying every year and I keep making more money. They are not going to leave unless they get a good offer so they can invest their money else where.
    Lets get all the Penas and fans around the world and come up with a sensible plan for joint ownership based on shares owned and lets get commitment from the fans and present it to them to buy them out.
    If we dont do this then we should stop complaining about it since we get what we deserve.
    I’m tired of hearing that they suck and they need to get out, lets do something about it and lets get them out.

  • Made me fucking cry! :'(
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  • Javi Lozoya

    Javi, well, Colchonero fans are actually doing something to get Gi land Cerezo out of the club, they protest, and take stands together againts Gil and Cerezo in case you dodn’t know, most people at Colchonero are very nice and smart people, and no offense but your idea of “buying” them out is dope and absurd.

  • Javi Lozoya

    And when you say we should stop crying about it, I suppose your refering to me, and for your information I live in an State where no one actually supports Atlético, , there might me some people but I honestly don’t know anybody who does it, so it’s really complicating to DO something in a world where Atlético isn’t exactly a popular club worldwide, you make it sound so easy, “stop crying and do something”, “let’s buy Gil out”, you sound like people where millionares and would agree to give a part of their incomes and salary so they can give their earnings to a bunch of greedy people like Gil and Cerezo , yeah right, people have other important priorities in life like working to sustain themselves and their families, what you say of “buying” Gil and Cerezo is totally absurd and is not gonna happen now or in a million years.

  • Martin Rosenow

    I, for one, do not think that Javi’s idea is absurd.

    Lozoya, you are overreacting man. Chill. Javi is clearly saying “We” – including himself, when he says we should stop whining and come up with a plan to actually do something about it.

    Let’s tone down the personal attacks here please. We are all here to support the same cause.

  • Javi

    Javi Lozoya, I was not directing my comment to you in particuluar, I was directing to all the Atleti fans, including myself, since I too have cried for the owners and directors to get out.
    I dont think its absurd to buy them out, either with a group of wealthy people-it happens all the time see Liverpool for example-or with the fans contributing what they can so that we jointly own the teams with each fan owning a portion relative to what they can contribute. This is feasible if we get enough people to do it, and actually many Atleti Penas have suggested this.
    What is not feasible is to think that the Gils and Cerezo are going to simply leave because we yell at them at the stadium or we write post against them; they dont care and they are used to our posts and yells-that certainly does not work.

  • Javi Lozoya

    Martin, c’mon man, “buying them out?”, with who’s money?, it would take like 500 million or more to buy them, and besides if an “offer” was to be made”, Gil and Cerezo would reject it and ask for more money, that’s what they do, remember we’re talking about Gil and Cerezo, 2 corrupt gentlemen and I know for sure they would prefer to run Atletico no matter how much money you offer.
    It sounds good for a fairy tale but realistically speaking it sounds very inlikely to happen.

  • Javi

    The way its done is by creating a limtied society with shares open to the public, so that any liability remains with the society and does not pass to the individuals, unless of course there is corruption or illegal activities. But first a plan is prepared and presented to the Penas. I read blogs from many different Atleti fans sites and this idea is not new, it comes up year after year. There are thousands of people out there that would do this, specially if shares prices are at an accesible rate so that everyone can participate, whether its a small amount or a large amount.
    In addition, Atleti owes over 200 million Euros to the Spanish government. We can use that as a bargaining tool to bring down their price, and if the team is purchased you can then negotiate with the Spanish government to make payments over time.
    We all have good fiscal ideas about what players to buy and how much to sell them for. We can probably run a much tighter ship fiscally than the current directors and with the sale of Calderon, there will be money made.

  • Martin Rosenow

    Sí se puede!

  • Javi

    Si se puede!

  • Javi Lozoya

    All right, my bad, I’m sorry Javi, now it doesn’t sounds so absurd after all but I still think it will be a very hard task to acomplish, and I remember that long ago Jorge Vergara who is the owner of Chivas, he is a pretty wealth and smart man, actually smarter than Gil and/or Cerezo, the thing is that Vergara wanted to become a major shareholder of Atletico Madrid, and believe me, he has money, last thing I heard is his offer was rejected, I’m not sure if it’s true or not, but think about, Malaga, PSG, Getafe, Racing de Santander, Manchester City, clubs whithout really a good fanbase we’re buyed by prestigious and rich people, and their owners have invested a lot of money on these clubs even though they’re not really very popular team, and I suppose that a club like Atleti who is very popular in Spain, and has a decent fanbase worlwide, but still not exactly as popular as like Barca or Madrid, (Atleti), hasn’t really had any offers to be owned by a rich man simply because I believe that Gil is not gonna let it happen in any way possible, and I’m pretty sure there’s rich people out there who’d like to become shareholders of Atletico everytime and everywhere.

  • Javi Lozoya

    what about Grupo de Camuñas?, they are pretty serious and responsible people, and Gil didn’t want to hear anything about their offer, so I think it rally doesn’t matter how much money you offer, Gil is still gonna reject any offers or blank checks.

  • Javi

    Javi L, all big things are difficult to achive, but remember we did beat barsa several times this past decade, maybe more than any other team. So its not impossible.
    With the sale of the stadium the directors stand to make a lot of money so I dont think they will give it up that easy, and contrary to public opinion, I dont think they are that stupid.
    I am going to consult with a Madrid lawyer about the structure of such a plan and then consult with all the Penas and other fan sites like this one so that people can tell us what if anything they could contribute. That way we can see if this plan has any teeth. If it does, then we look at the enemy in the eye and give it to them.

  • Gert

    Javi, I’m in!
    Everything has its price.
    Everything is for sale!

    Si se puede!

  • Germany

    thank you for saying it. something has to change!

  • Javi

    Good Gert, we will need as many as possible.
    Following Javi L’s comment, I’m going to research to see whether the people who were part of that Camunas group are still interested. They were several big hitters. But personally I prefer the idea of building a group of fan-owners from all over the world, like us who can each own a small but important piece of Atleti. Lets see what I find.

  • Javi Lozoya

    I think it’ll be easier to beat Barcelona than buy out Gil and Cerezo out of Atleti!, what you’re saying it’s a serious thing, and about the sale of the stadium, it hasn’t been done yet, so you have to consider than your plan is gonna be very difficult to achieve, and you have to considere all the possible outcomes it represents, I hope you achieve this, but it really means bigger words and you need very smart and prepared people to make Gil accept a possible buyout and to actually make it happen.

  • Javi Lozoya

    Let’s see if Gil as a price.

  • Javi

    Come on Javi L, jump on board we can do it.

  • Javi

    By the way, the only thing that does not have a price is our passion for this freaking team.
    Aupa Atleti

  • Javi Lozoya

    I’m in, I’ma see what people say about it in Colchonero, hopefully they stick to your cause, and yes, Aupa Atleti!.

  • Javi

    Cool
    By the way its OUR cause

  • Javi Lozoya

    Yeah, OUR cause.

  • Davide

    Like a wrote in the last thread. If the board actually hired i great coach sometime than we might not have to fire him. All i see is a string av mediocre coaches hired at the Calderón. The problem is that the board is scared of strong managers who will tell them what players to get and how to run the club. Gil and Cerezo wants mediocre quiet puppet managers so they can buy and sell players as they please without interference. Also a strong manager might get the supporters on his side without actually asking for it, given the the hostile climate that exists between fans and the board for years now. A popular high profile manager at Atlético (there aren’t many) might be very hard to fire if he stands up to the board and inteferes in the clubs internal and financial affairs backed by fan support. The kind of managers Atlético have been hiring the last years is not based on what’s best for the club and wanting it to do well, but on politics, and writing of losses, player deals and bonuses in a very organized tax fraud system built up suck money out of the club account by private businessmen while at the same keeping the club on the ropes close to a knockout. It is to complicated to explain on a thread. As long as these owners are running Atlético as a money laundering service instead of a football club, there is no hope.

  • Mais

    Javi, the idea sounds inspired, even if it isnt new
    lets say a price is reached, how would the team be run? will any of the groups be looking for majority shares?

  • Mais

    also i think all the rumours about mendes need to be delved into as well..dont let anyone derail your efforts

  • Kawar Garmawi

    Guys, I have some great news; Diego Simeone has just resigned as coach for his (former) team Racing! That must mean that Manzano is out, right?

    I’ve been waiting for this news ever since Goyo decided to join Atleti! Even though our board are much more incompetent! (than Manzano)

    Btw, I might be “new” to all of you, I’ve been following this amazing site for a long time now, I’ve been a fan of Atleti since 2003 (mainly because of “El nino”), and from Sweden!

    iAtleti te amo!

  • Kawar Garmawi

    Btw, I have a an idea, those who have, if they could tell their “Facebook:s” it would be much more fun and exciting to see all the other who follows Atletico. We could share much together and hopefully by the time to get know more Colchoneros world wide.
    Heres mine, for those who wants.

    Kawar “Kuni” Garmawi

  • Javi

    I agree with what Davide and Mais said, it would not surprise me if the board gets kickbacks from agents on the crazy deals we see. A lot of these deals make no sense to us, but behind close doors they do because someone is making money.

    Mais I think if the team was owned by the fans, the fans could get involved in major decisions and put in place people we trust to micro manage the team
    For example in all the pols I see fans pick Aragones for coach by a huge majority. But like Davide said Luis’ personality would be a conflict for the current owners in many ways so that’s not happening. We could decide on a coach and on a player director and in issues as to sell the stadium and things like selling Kun, Forlan, Simao, Torres and others.

  • Javi Lozoya

    Welcome to Atleticofans, Kawar Garmawi!

  • Derek Maaijen

    Kawar, if you scroll up then on the right you’ll see a link to our Facebook community page. You’ll find many fellow Rojiblancos there!

  • Gert

    I read that Caminero would leave as well?? And they offered the job back to Pitarch? Any truth in this???

  • Gert

    Pitarch is in the Calderon as we speak…

  • Gert

    Nothing to worry about since he was there to say hi and wish everyone a merry christmas

  • DJ

    valencia

  • Martin Rosenow

    Hey DJ, who’s gonna lose at the Calderón in February? Good answer.

  • Martin Rosenow (father)

    Son, you have inspired me…the rest of you guys: si se puede…count me in!!

  • Mais

    randomly came across this blog entry today
    i for one hold with the delusionally optimistic commenters

    http://www.runofplay.com/2011/06/04/on-helplessness/